Live 12.2 announced

[solvni_music]

someone know when the update will be 12.2 update will be released?

[whyterabbyt]

someone know when the update will be 12.2 update will be released?

If you've got beta access you'll get a link to release notes with each of the public releases. from that:

12.2 has been in beta for a month or so, with 3 public releases so far

12.1 was in beta for over 7 months and a dozen or so public releases

12.05 was in beta for about 3 months and six or so public releases

[solvni_music]

someone know when the update will be 12.2 update will be released?

If you've got beta access you'll get a link to release notes with each of the public releases. from that:

12.2 has been in beta for a month or so, with 3 public releases so far

12.1 was in beta for over 7 months and a dozen or so public releases

12.05 was in beta for about 3 months and six or so public releases

I'm a Live 12 newbie , is public beta open for everybody ?

[thecontrolcentre]

I'm a Live 12 newbie , is public beta open for everybody ?

It's open to pretty much everyone who has a Live 12 license afaik.
https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... Q58HJ802JQ

https://www.ableton.com/en/beta/

[solvni_music]

I'm a Live 12 newbie , is public beta open for everybody ?

It's open to pretty much everyone who has a Live 12 license afaik.
https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... Q58HJ802JQ

https://www.ableton.com/en/beta/

thanx for reply , i will sign up as soon i can for the new option.
I have an other question , I have regular version , is the version with max for live is easy to create midi / synth plugins ? the plugins who comes with the SUITE edition are good ? i mean i have tonebooster EQ Pro 4 , ProQ4 , saturn 2 , volcano 3 and dmg compassion and t racks max 6 ...roaar and the synth bass seems pretty good..any advices ?

[telecharge]

thanx for reply , i will sign up as soon i can for the new option.
I have an other question , I have regular version , is the version with max for live is easy to create midi / synth plugins ? the plugins who comes with the SUITE edition are good ? i mean i have tonebooster EQ Pro 4 , ProQ4 , saturn 2 , volcano 3 and dmg compassion and t racks max 6 ...roaar and the synth bass seems pretty good..any advices ?

You have plenty. Get to know what you have, then decide if more is needed.

[whyterabbyt]

I have regular version , is the version with max for live is easy to create midi / synth plugins ?

its not beginner territory, and effects are probably an easier starting point than either of those, but there's plenty of tutorial material.
you could maybe try the Max standalone as a demo to see how you feel about it, it'll run for 30 days.

i suspect most people who use max for live dont necessarily build their own stuff, though, they get it to use stuff that other people have built. and there's a lot of good stuff out there.

[solvni_music]

I have regular version , is the version with max for live is easy to create midi / synth plugins ?

its not beginner territory, and effects are probably an easier starting point than either of those, but there's plenty of tutorial material.
you could maybe try the Max standalone as a demo to see how you feel about it, it'll run for 30 days.

i suspect most people who use max for live dont necessarily build their own stuff, though, they get it to use stuff that other people have built. and there's a lot of good stuff out there.

it work the same way of reaktor ?

[Daru925]

max4live is absolutely not beginner friendly, as least for people with no programming background and a will to suffer instead of making music, i think. Reaktor is probably the same, so you might like it

So many little things and timewasters to know that could make or break a device, sure there is "built in help", but it always comes down to "oh you forgot to add this little module you never heard off, tough luck", or "all you needed was to divide A by the square of a full moon", or realize data is processed from left to right, device doesnt work because i wanted my modules nicely layed out; you could spend an eternity before knowing all these necessary evil rules instead of making a cool device to enhance your music.
Tutorials are sparse, and none of them make for an interesting or coherent learning path.
Its quite depressing to try and learn this thing, unless you already a programmer i guess. I'm not.

Hopefully, m4l enthusiats and geniuses create awesome devices, that pretty much fix the bugs in current versions.
Makes it much less frustrating to wait for an update.
But beginner/idiot friendly, like me, certainly not.

[whyterabbyt]

it work the same way of reaktor ?

A similar style, yes, but Max doesnt have nearly as much in the way of prebuilt audio components and 'parts' that you can just drop in, I'd say its audio objects are generally a bit lower level than Reaktor's Primary, though not as low level as Core is.
Although a certain amount of higher-level components was added to Max recently, ie the ABL objects, which are all taken from Live.

Max is much better at MIDI processing, though, it was basically doing that sort of thing before realtime audio was possible on anything like a standard PC.

and of course, Reaktor doesnt do video manipulation or let you scan a webpage and turn the data into MIDI notes, if that's your bag. Its a very broad toolkit, with a lot of little silos of focus and capability. (Sometimes maybe too siloed, though, eg the newish gamepad objects)

[solvni_music]

I need it to build basic synth and midi sequencer

[whyterabbyt]

For the sequencer, maybe have a look at Philip Meyer's tutorials on YT.

[solvni_music]

Thx now i must find money to buy the upgrade

[Echoes in the Attic]

wonder if theyll ever have midi and audio able to be on same track

bounce in place would be better off

Oh god I hope not. Reaper has this functionality and it’s a mess. Let’s keep midi and audio separate for the sake of sanity.

Why would you hope that a feature was not implemented that you would never have to use if you don’t want to? It wouldn’t affect you. Bitwig has this and it’s one of its biggest advantages over Live. Bouncing to the same track but being able to go back to original midi in that track in different clips is really fantastic and makes for MUCH cleaner sets.

[Yorrrrrr]

I don't care for hybrid tracks either. What a mess. But if they ever add the option (I doubt it), it's fine. However, it would be nice if they instead focused on copying other great features from Bitwig, such as modulation system, plugin sandboxing, multiple projects, custom keyboard shortcuts and others.