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ThomasHelzle wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:53 pm One question: In the video, you seemed to always have to adjust the octave of the samples.
Is that since you are using a different centre-C than other systems or what causes this?
It could be that, yes. SynthMaster recognizes C-1 as Midi Note 0. and I think Reaper does it that way as well. Whereas, other DAWs/software recognize C-2 as Midi Note 0.
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Yeah, I think that one goes back a long way - some old synth companies doing it differently just for the heck of it. ;-)

Thanks,

Tom
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ThomasHelzle wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:51 pm Yeah, I think that one goes back a long way - some old synth companies doing it differently just for the heck of it. ;-)

Thanks,

Tom
It's a difference between Gregorian and General MIDI standard :
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9q ... s_du_piano
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carrieres wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:05 pm
ThomasHelzle wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:51 pm Yeah, I think that one goes back a long way - some old synth companies doing it differently just for the heck of it. ;-)

Thanks,

Tom
It's a difference between Gregorian and General MIDI standard :
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9q ... s_du_piano
are there more plugins with gregorian midi instead of normal midi?

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Midi is clear, as its Midi note numbers. The A of 440 Hz is Midi note 69.
Midi note 60 often called the middle C is C3 for me and for some its C4… Both mean those 261,x Hz…
All plugins use just Midi, only the label might be different…

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Tj Shredder wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 6:22 am Midi note 60 often called the middle C is C3 for me and for some its C4… Both mean those 261,x Hz…
Our products interpret C4 as Midi Note 60 :) If there is a feature request, I can add a global setting under Audio Engine to change that behavior between C4 or C3, in a later update.
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kv331 wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:14 am Our products interpret C4 as Midi Note 60 :) If there is a feature request, I can add a global setting under Audio Engine to change that behavior between C4 or C3, in a later update.
That would be great, I'm used to the setup where Note 60 = C3 :) Could you also fix "Snap Arp to DAW beat" please ("snap sequencer" works, "snap arp" doesn't)

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My Midi keyboard has octave transpose buttons.
My first plugin on a synth track is a midi octave transpose plugin.
So often synth sounds are programmed one way and I want to use them another way.
A bass sound? But I like it as a lead so I transpose it 2 -3 octaves up.
Arrangement, that part is too low but cool? Try it out an octave higher.
But I get the drift with consistency with other plugins.
ABX is enemy to GAS

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whassup wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:15 pm But I get the drift with consistency with other plugins.
There's no consistency, there are 2 standards :)

Interpreting Midi Note 60 as C3 or C4 is important when you are parsing file names OR when you are displaying note names. Other than those 2 scenarios, there's no issue. SynthMaster plays Midi Note 60 as 261 Hz, regardless of its displayed octave.
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I just installed the latest version from the site and Cakewalk is freezing up before it can show the UI. I was loading up the VST3 version. Also I noticed it didn't show the VST2 version in my list of plugins even though I installed both types.

After about 10 minutes of trying it a few times, I uninstalled/reinstalled it, but it does the same thing. I emailed you the crash log files from Cakewalk to see if it helps.

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Examigan wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 3:02 pm I just installed the latest version from the site and Cakewalk is freezing up before it can show the UI. I was loading up the VST3 version. Also I noticed it didn't show the VST2 version in my list of plugins even though I installed both types.
Hi Rob

Could you send the me log files under:

c:\users\public\public documents\synthmaster3\logs

Thanks!
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I tried the vst2 in Cakewalk and it worked fine.
But it was already registered in Reaper, where it froze for some seconds (overlaping windows I think) until registered.

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Ableton 10 and stand-alone version: I seem to have the same problem. See Issue #99714

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user12 wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 6:56 pm Ableton 10 and stand-alone version: I seem to have the same problem. See Issue #99714
Your issue might be different. I checked the log files my brother forwarded me. They seemed OK, I didn't see any crash in those log files. Is your Windows installed on drive E ?

Can you try this:

delete E:\Users\Public\Public Documents\SynthMaster 3 folder

and try again?

FYI: In Rob's case, I checked the sample search paths he sent me (SynthMasterSampleFolders.txt file). D:\ and E:\ drives were added to search paths. I don't recommend adding drives at the root level. I will make sure this is not allowed.
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Yep, that fixed it Bulent, thanks again!

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