Vital - Released

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sempondr wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:43 am What happened to the developer? Is he busy with another project or just gave up?
kinda getting camel audio vibes - really solid developer that people love that just ghosts his product without saying anything - either he's going through something irl or he's sold his IP and they are waiting on something to happen before they announce likely featured in another product like camel audio was with logic. just a huge guess here. also 3rd possibility and most likely without the tin foil hat on - probably just lost passion for the project and moved onto developing other things.
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Vital appeared out of nowhere without any fanfare and shook up a few things with some very cool features....

I wouldn't be surprised if there is another surprise in the pipeline from the elusive Mr T...

Wherever he is and whatever he is doing,I wish him well and thank him with a grateful heart because Vital is a real gem that is used here daily 🙏
No auto tune...

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sempondr wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:43 am What happened to the developer? Is he busy with another project or just gave up?
Nobody knows. He said he's on other plugins but he released gfx library for plugins on GitHub some time ago. He might be mostly surfing though.

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I would love to see Vital getting some updates so it would proof it is not abandoned:)

The synth is just amazing!
I have demoed Serum2 and it is great, but Vital has some stuff STILL much better or more intuitive to use even it is older than the new Serum2 example the way you see what is controlling what -> very easy and handy in Vital compared to Serum2. It is strange Serum2 didn’t improve this.

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And one more thing:
Serum2 seems to has really good presets, really confining sounds. But is is total CPU nightmare where Vital is much lighter I can run more instances of Vital without problems. But then again - Vital doesn’t have so complex presets as those in Serum2 (I should maybe test similar presets to see how they compare when I get back to my computer).

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Bartone wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 8:19 am And one more thing:
Serum2 seems to has really good presets, really confining sounds. But is is total CPU nightmare where Vital is much lighter I can run more instances of Vital without problems. But then again - Vital doesn’t have so complex presets as those in Serum2 (I should maybe test similar presets to see how they compare when I get back to my computer).
You are testing it wrong. I Already said that to you in the other thread.

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Bartone wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 8:19 am Vital doesn’t have so complex presets as those in Serum2 ...
Mmm....I'm not sure that everyone will agree with your assessment there Senor....

There are some seriously complex presets available for Vital and the assignments are laid out in a clear and logical manner.....

In terms of workflow,Vital is THE winner for me with a GUI that makes the user experience a real pleasure...

These are design choices that people like Urs pay great attention to and companies like Apple pay big bucks for...

A few other synth creators sat up and paid close attention when Vital rocked up because Matt got a lot of things right from the get go :wink:
No auto tune...

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digitalboytn wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 10:58 pm
Bartone wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 8:19 am Vital doesn’t have so complex presets as those in Serum2 ...
There are some seriously complex presets available for Vital and the assignments are laid out in a clear and logical manner.....

In terms of workflow,Vital is THE winner for me with a GUI that makes the user experience a real pleasure...
In terms of GUI and UIX Vital still holds the crown. Also, Vital allows very complex set ups and the modulation is easier to use in a modular-ish manner compared to f.ex. Serum. That may be the strongest of Vital features for me.

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Yes, I have to say Vital is easier to use since you can very easy see what is modulating what and you can change the values right there. In Serum2 not that easy, and it is much newer synth.

I think Vital is still very powerful and modern synth today.
Maybe it will get updates, we don't know. But as it is now, it is still very modern and easy to use.

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Totally agree re: Vital being the clear winner when it comes to modulation. Serum 2 is weirdly old school in this regard: a modulated knob only shows 1 modulator + its current depth at a time. Switching between them is a pain, you either have to use the mod Matrix on a different page, or you have to select the modulator, then go back to the parameter, it will show the depth for that modulator. When you have multiple things modulating one parameter, this workflow becomes very notably slow. Serum2 also, like the original, relies heavily on Context-Menu based operations for seeing what-modulates-this & removing modulation. Context menus always feel slow....

Vital really showed a better way, here: visualize ALL modulators on the parameter, all depths can be modified, remove with double click. The only time I need the context menu is for polarity on LFOs. The system is so smooth and streamlined. Notably, recent versions of Pigments adopted this exact same approach. Serum 2 feels way behind (but is amazing nonetheless).

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vital is a really good piece of software, and considering most people use it for free, the developer might spend time on something bigger in the meantime. there's nothing wrong with that.

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Yes, that is also very true.
I think it is amazing that there is the free version of Vital. I did buy it when it was introduced since it was so amazing!

But when there is a free version, it should be understandable that some/most people choose the free version (at least first and they find it useful/good they might “buy” it just to support the developer).

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mholloway wrote: Sun May 11, 2025 7:02 pm Totally agree re: Vital being the clear winner when it comes to modulation. Serum 2 is weirdly old school in this regard: a modulated knob only shows 1 modulator + its current depth at a time. Switching between them is a pain, you either have to use the mod Matrix on a different page, or you have to select the modulator, then go back to the parameter, it will show the depth for that modulator. When you have multiple things modulating one parameter, this workflow becomes very notably slow. Serum2 also, like the original, relies heavily on Context-Menu based operations for seeing what-modulates-this & removing modulation. Context menus always feel slow....

Vital really showed a better way, here: visualize ALL modulators on the parameter, all depths can be modified, remove with double click. The only time I need the context menu is for polarity on LFOs. The system is so smooth and streamlined. Notably, recent versions of Pigments adopted this exact same approach. Serum 2 feels way behind (but is amazing nonetheless).
I have to very much agree.

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dkdkfkfkfkkfkfkf wrote: Sun May 11, 2025 8:12 pm ... the developer might spend time on something bigger in the meantime. there's nothing wrong with that.
He wastes his time with gfx gimmicks on github instead of updating und bugfixing Vital!

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oh comon guys , its a free plugin , give him time

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