KVR Audio

Frac-Capitaine · Post by **Frac-Capitaine** » Wed May 21, 2025 5:00 pm

Hi.

When producing, my main issue is controlling the EQ for multiple tracks as the same time.
I have find the solution in Bitwig to tweak eq of severals tracks at the same time (with the BCR2000), but I hate the sequencing feature of Bitwig, I am more ease in Ableton Live.
In other word, use Bitwig as a virtual mixer and Ableton live as sequencer and vst instrument host (+some fx).

So, I want to transfert the audio of all my tracks from Ableton Live to Bitwig as sort of send/insert. Idealy on the same computer, I meant launching Ableton Live and Bitwig at the same time.

Have anyone such a setting ? or advice of app or setting ?

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed May 21, 2025 6:15 pm

if you want to send audio between different DAWs, you'll either need a very flexible soundcard driver, or a plugin like NUGEN SigMod or BlueCat Connector
both of which are an unduly complex solution for not EQing in Live.

justin3am · Post by **justin3am** » Wed May 21, 2025 6:43 pm

Yeah, I'm thinking this would be a lot of work for little reward. It's definitely possible but seems like you might be better off bouncing your projects to stems and then doing your mixing in Bitwig. I used to write in Bitwig or Live and then mix in Pro Tools. There is something to be said for deliberately moving into a new project for the mixing stage but I gave up on moving between DAWs a long time ago and do everything in Bitwig now.

When I master stuff, I send audio out of one interface (which is running at the sample rate of the original audio files), through analog signal processors and then into a different interface running at my target sample rate... and even that process is kind of a pain in my ass.

Shabdahbriah · Post by **Shabdahbriah** » Wed May 21, 2025 7:50 pm

Absolutely agree with what they ^^^ both said. I also do this (using two or more computers/workstations), frequently:

I send audio out of one interface (which is running at the sample rate of the original audio files), through analog signal processors and then into a different interface running at my target sample rate

Frac-Capitaine · Post by **Frac-Capitaine** » Fri May 23, 2025 9:29 am

Thanks for your answer.
Yes, It is definitively cumbursome to manage différent Daw at the same time.
The lack of scripting support for Ableton Live made me mad. I didn't understand why they didn't provide documentation for this feature, It is useful and they will grow certainly their users...

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whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Fri May 23, 2025 10:16 am

Frac-Capitaine wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 9:29 am Thanks for your answer.
Yes, It is definitively cumbursome to manage différent Daw at the same time.
The lack of scripting support for Ableton Live made me mad. I didn't understand why they didn't provide documentation for this feature, It is useful and they will grow certainly their users...

What 'lack of scripting support?'

There's plenty of documentation and support on the Live API for Max4Live

https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... x-for-Live

(And Googling will give you a ton of LOM stuff for Python as well, as that's what is used for RemoteScripts (and you can even do so via OSC.

Hell, there's even a Udemy course on it.)

bibz1st · Post by **bibz1st** » Fri May 23, 2025 11:35 am

VB Audio Matrix can do that but again its probably over complex for the purpose required.

Frac-Capitaine · Post by **Frac-Capitaine** » Fri May 23, 2025 6:04 pm

whyterabbyt wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 10:16 am
What 'lack of scripting support?'

There's plenty of documentation and support on the Live API for Max4Live

https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... x-for-Live

(And Googling will give you a ton of LOM stuff for Python as well, as that's what is used for RemoteScripts (and you can even do so via OSC.

Hell, there's even a Udemy course on it.)

To my knowledge, there is no official manual for the API of Ableton. Even the one of Bitwig lack of explanation.

If you have a proof of one, put the link !

Frac-Capitaine · Post by **Frac-Capitaine** » Fri May 23, 2025 6:07 pm

Max4Live is not what we can call a simple API, it had layer for remote device that is already a layer.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Fri May 23, 2025 6:23 pm

Frac-Capitaine wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 6:04 pmTo my knowledge, there is no official manual for the API of Ableton. Even the one of Bitwig lack of explanation.

If you have a proof of one, put the link !

If you'd looked at the link I gave you, you would have found the LOM pages, tutorial links, the lot.

But since you've gone from asking for help to a "prove it" attitude, Im out of here.

Help and Idea for using a Daw as sequencer an another as Mixer