Certain multiparameter behaviour puzzling me.

[Karl Lenard]

Hi everyone!

I am struggling to make certain 3 multiparamter switches behavior in MXXX like following:

1. When I engage/disengage MP1 to disengage MP2 and MP3
2. When I engage/disengage MP2 to disengage MP1 and MP3
now puzzling part:
3. When I engage MP3 to disengage MP1 but to leave MP2 in current state (if its engaged than to leave it engaged and if its disengaged to leave it disengaged)
4. when I disengage MP3 to disengage MP1 and MP2

Or simpler:
MP1 ON or OFF Turn OFF MP2 and MP3
MP2 ON or OFF Turn OFF MP1 and MP3
MP3 ON Turn OFF MP1, leave MP2 as-is
MP3 OFF Turn OFF MP1 and MP2

I managed to get all except tricky last part where MP3 OFF Turns OFF MP1 and MP2 (look attached gif)

MelMp.gif

On gif when I hit MP2 than MP3 both ON thats good
But I want when I hit OFF on the MP3 to MP2 be also OFF.

Any chance to achieve that?

Here is MXXX preset I stuck if anyone wonder:

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[jmg8]

Open MP3, look at the list of parameters, notice how the top one is unchecked. I think that fixes it.

[Karl Lenard]

Open MP3, look at the list of parameters, notice how the top one is unchecked. I think that fixes it.

Thanks for the heads up but unfortunately not, that is unchecked for purpose in able to achieve step 3 / "MP3 ON Turn OFF MP1, leave MP2 as-is" Basically what need is to make MP3 switch to send command only when MP3 from ON to OFF and not backwards (from OFF to ON) I am noob with the expressions hut might they could help?

I used v14 till recently and if i recall well i managed to make described behaviour but in new 17 not. I will test it out later today.

[al808]

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this seems to work here.there's probably more elegant ways of doing this.

[Karl Lenard]

Yes, something is odd here maybe potential bug with V17, I was able to make this in v14 via multi parameter trigger which will disengage MP2. The problem is that in V17 switch stays engaged when its triggered via multiparameter.
Here is preset that works in v14:

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V14 Behavior:

V14 Behaviour.gif

V17 Behavior:

V17 Behaviour.gif

In V17 it gets stuck so I am not sure if that how it supposed to work? From my perspective "Trigger" isn't classical button(Switch) and it cannot be in state ON/OFF and in V17 it acts like Switch when its engaged via MP.

If anyone have hint or solution how this can work as in V14 I would be very glad to hear
Thx

[Karl Lenard]

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this seems to work here.there's probably more elegant ways of doing this.

Wow this is head scratching I need couple hours to understand this, however it doesn't work as I described but with 2 tweaks (still dont understand how i got to it) i was able to manage to work!
Tweak1: Uncheck "Param 2 (MP2)" in Multiparamter 4 MP3 BANK
Tweak2: Check "Invert" on Param 2 (MP2) in Multiparamter 6 MP2 MEM
Result: Works as I needed! Thanks so much al808!
Here is tweaked preset:

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Here is practical usage if wondered:

Practical Usage.gif

I made monitor control that i can control via computer keyboard (KB>AHK MIDI>LoopMidi>MXXX)
And often I listen MID band in solo as well HIGH band, but sometimes I like to listen both MID+HIGH band in solo too.
Thanks again.