Modulation Monitor displaying incorrectly?
- KVRAF
- 3145 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
Not sure if this is a bug or not.
The MIDI Monitor is showing a value on the right, fluctuating between positive and negative values, but the graphics only show the positive values, is this a bug or something?
The MIDI Monitor is showing a value on the right, fluctuating between positive and negative values, but the graphics only show the positive values, is this a bug or something?
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- KVRer
- 17 posts since 11 Nov, 2024
That's the modulation monitor, but I have encountered this issue too
- KVRAF
- 13861 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3145 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
I was working on emulating Synth1, but it's also in an older Mux project in MuLib, MC-909 Mux preset.
But here's what I am working on now:
Go into the Tone1 Mux to find another Tone1 Mux. Enter this one to find the MIDI Monitors, each labelled OUT *.*
You can test them on the front panel by selecting the buttons in the LFO areas. The LFO button has to be enabled.
Glad it's not just me!
Thanks Jo.
But here's what I am working on now:
Go into the Tone1 Mux to find another Tone1 Mux. Enter this one to find the MIDI Monitors, each labelled OUT *.*
You can test them on the front panel by selecting the buttons in the LFO areas. The LFO button has to be enabled.
Glad it's not just me!
Thanks Jo.
Last edited by sl23 on Sun Jun 01, 2025 3:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- KVRAF
- 13861 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
I can't find the Modulation Monitor that shows the above picture.
When i play a note only MM 1.3 moves, but looks right.
Please make it easy for me to repeat this.
When i play a note only MM 1.3 moves, but looks right.
Please make it easy for me to repeat this.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3145 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
Ok, sorry for the complex set up, I'm not too great with Mux. I'll try reducing it for easier usage. 
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3145 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
On the front panel, the LFO has 4 Note Event Pad's that switch the destination of the LFO from Pitch, Volume, Filter and Pan.
From here open the Mux and there is a module called MAIN.
Open that and then open the module called TONE1.
You should now see this: Apologies, I made a mistake, the MIDI Monitors are called MON 1.1, MON 1.2, MON 1.3, MON 1.4.
You can use the front panel to see the effect of them. Just play a note and click a Note Event Pad to change the destination. All of them work the same way, even though the values are bipolar, the graphics are not.
All the modules on the right are to do with the LFO, all those on the left are related to oscillators.
Here's a cut down mux:
From here open the Mux and there is a module called MAIN.
Open that and then open the module called TONE1.
You should now see this: Apologies, I made a mistake, the MIDI Monitors are called MON 1.1, MON 1.2, MON 1.3, MON 1.4.
You can use the front panel to see the effect of them. Just play a note and click a Note Event Pad to change the destination. All of them work the same way, even though the values are bipolar, the graphics are not.
All the modules on the right are to do with the LFO, all those on the left are related to oscillators.
Here's a cut down mux:
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- KVRAF
- 13861 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
I clicked all 4 buttons on the front panel of the cut down version and played a note, all 4 MMs look right, sweeping from left (neg) to right (pos) and back as expected.
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- KVRer
- 17 posts since 11 Nov, 2024
This is strange, I do get the same rendering issue for negative values
Here with this minimal setup of a modulator and a monitor
Here with this minimal setup of a modulator and a monitor
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3145 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
They only go from the centre mark to the right, aren't negative values supposed to show on the left half? Or else what's the point of the left half at all? 
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3145 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
That's a much better example!AlvanMerri wrote: Sat May 31, 2025 5:26 pm This is strange, I do get the same rendering issue for negative values
Here with this minimal setup of a modulator and a monitor
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3145 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
Slowed it down so you can see better:
Negative values aren't displayed in the bar graphics, though you can clearly see them in the right hand values.
Negative values aren't displayed in the bar graphics, though you can clearly see them in the right hand values.
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- KVRAF
- 13861 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Ok, i see now.AlvanMerri wrote: Sat May 31, 2025 5:26 pm This is strange, I do get the same rendering issue for negative values
Here with this minimal setup of a modulator and a monitor
I couldn't repeat it cause i was using the lead version M10.0.56 here as i didn't expect a change compared to M10.0.54 in that context. But there *is* a change which made it work in M10.0.56. Anyway, almost too many words to say this will be fixed in the next update.
Sorry for the confusion in testing. Thx for reporting this.
Btw, Alvan, i'll get back on your "MPE speed" post soonish.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3145 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
