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How the heck aren’t you able to do what you want with such a powerhouse that is Avenger ? It has it all.
What you want to buy is a major, major downgrade. :shrug:
Whatever.

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TS-12 wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 11:40 pm I already have Spire, Omnisphere, Serum, PolyMax, Avenger and Nexus.

but I need another synth to cover classic rock brass sounds, JP-8080 type of sounds, moog and prophet type of sounds and cinematic sounds.
my 2c, you can get everything you want from your existing synths except for cinematic.

Cinematic is generally its own thing, and if you want work with those styles in any kind of depth, then it is best done with a good sample player and dedicated sample libs. Kontakt paired with some good orchestral libs is probably still the heavyweight champ in this realm, but there are other options as well.

Project Sam Free Orchestra is also pretty nice (and free!!):

https://projectsam.com/libraries/the-free-orchestra
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Lbdunequest wrote: Thu Jun 05, 2025 4:54 pm He doesnt need any of those
I know. So what? :hyper: :hug:
ABX is enemy to GAS

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TS-12 wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 11:40 pm I already have Spire, Omnisphere, Serum, PolyMax, Avenger and Nexus.

but I need another synth to cover classic rock brass sounds, JP-8080 type of sounds, moog and prophet type of sounds and cinematic sounds.
You already have everything you need

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Maybe this will help :hihi:

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Lbdunequest wrote: Thu Jun 05, 2025 3:47 pm
TS-12 wrote: Thu Jun 05, 2025 3:43 pm
VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Thu Jun 05, 2025 3:23 pm Non of these.
Serum 2 vs Synthmaster 3 is heavy weight championship right now...
Cheers :)
Serum is good but it can't do Classic Synth Brass well, and JP-8080 style supersaws and other classic trance sounds.
It definatly cant by itself, none if synth can. Sound designer can. And Serum does great 8080 style supersaws, it even has algorhytm for that.
By accident i am sound designer :) For any kind of brass,all you need is saw and right ADSR settings.
More advanced options is better,but few detuned saw and correct ADSR will give good result as well.
For example the accordion need pwm for real like vibe.
Brass is unique for some genres like trap and house and not always real record give that smoothness and uniqueness,well made synth brass is better solution in many cases...
The more advanced synth is,the more interesting the brass can be.
To me classic synth brass from 80s is obsolete...for a modern production.
Advanced synths like Serum 2 and Synthmaster 3 just sit better in modern mix,compared to classic synths imo...

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TS-12 wrote: Thu Jun 05, 2025 3:43 pm
VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Thu Jun 05, 2025 3:23 pm Non of these.
Serum 2 vs Synthmaster 3 is heavy weight championship right now...
Cheers :)
Serum is good but it can't do Classic Synth Brass well, and JP-8080 style supersaws and other classic trance sounds.
I would rather focus on one, maybe two genres. Just a friendly suggestion. It's hard enough to master just one genre very well. For Trance, you have already all plugins you need.

Serum Trance Essentials Volume I [Demis Hellen]
https://soundcloud.com/demishellen/seru ... s-volume-i

Serum Trance Essentials Volume II [Demis Hellen]
https://soundcloud.com/demishellen/seru ... demo-audio

Trance Soundset Volume 2 For Spire [Allen Watts]
https://soundcloud.com/allenwattsmusic/ ... -for-spire

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whassup wrote: Thu Jun 05, 2025 4:19 pmCinematic sounds: I recommend Synthmaster3 for that to add to what you already have. The complete bundle is quite cheap with 7500 presets and tons of them are really good.
You could spend your entire life just going through presets to find the half-a-dozen or so that are actually useful and not just variations on those few themes.

As for the rest of the post, one doesn't need one synth to sound like a Model D, one synth to sound like a Prophet and another to sound like an Oberheim, one just needs one really good, versatile synth that can make synth sounds. Seriously, do you think anyone can pick any of them in a mix? I bet not.

WHAT THE ACTUAL f**k!! Someone has edited my f**king post. Has anyone ever seen me use "one", instead of "you"? And I'm pretty sure I started the reply with "f**k me!", which has been redacted.

Do people not watch television? Do you not see that words like "f**k" are just part of normal, adult conversation? It's a word you can hear at 7:30pm over here, they don't even wait until after the watershed.
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How in depth do you need? Are you scoring a movie? Then get the best samples you can find or hire a band and orchestra. Greater context is needed. Based on what you have, none offer anything that new or different.

So the answer is Diva.

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DJErmac wrote: Thu Jun 05, 2025 4:55 pm How the heck aren’t you able to do what you want with such a powerhouse that is Avenger ? It has it all.
What you want to buy is a major, major downgrade. :shrug:
Whatever.
yes, it sounds pretty decent - the UI could be improved though, it's not the most fun synth to work with. it's also fairly overlapping with serum 2.

those two should cover almost everything - but Diva has that lushness that the OPs other synths are missing.

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BONES wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 12:49 am
whassup wrote: Thu Jun 05, 2025 4:19 pmCinematic sounds: I recommend Synthmaster3 for that to add to what you already have. The complete bundle is quite cheap with 7500 presets and tons of them are really good.
You could spend your entire life just going through presets to find the half-a-dozen or so that are actually useful and not just variations on those few themes.

As for the rest of the post, one dosn't need one synth to sound like a Model D, one synth to sound like a Prophet and another to sound like an Oberheim, one just needs one really good, versatile synths that can make synth sounds. Seriously, do you think anyone can pick any of them in a mix? I bet not.
People like to do certain things. Some people argue that these things make sense.
And yes, it sure depends upon the music and the mix and the specific sound how discernable the Moog is from the Prophet. But to generalize that they are indiscernable in a mix is unnecessary. You can discern them too. I am pretty sure about that.
ABX is enemy to GAS

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