MuLab 10.0.85

[mgiambro]

That's why soon after M10's release i'll invest time in making more videos. It will take time and it will slow down MuLab's development a bit, but it's really necessary.

Good shout. Out of interest, I punched "Why is MuLab not so well known or adopted?" into ChatGPT. I won't paste the whole response here. Much of it may seem obvious, but I think it gives a good overview of the challenges MuLab has gaining traction in this competitive market. In short in comes down to visibility and that MuLab is unconventional (for me that's a positive), so some people won't give it a chance. That said, FL Studio is unconventional and somehow that became successful. Sadly, most people just follow the herd and go with the big names. If Jo hasn't already ChatGPT'd it, maybe it could give him some ideas on how to draw eyes to the product. It would be sad to see MuLab die. It deserves better.

[MuTools]

I say this with encouragement, not criticism, hope you see that.

Yes i feel that. Thx.

[MuTools]

Out of interest, I punched "Why is MuLab not so well known or adopted?" into ChatGPT. If Jo hasn't already ChatGPT'd it, maybe it could give him some ideas on how to draw eyes to the product.

Thx for the tip, will do soonish.

It would be sad to see MuLab die. It deserves better.

Rest assured: As long as i live MuLab won't die
And step by step i'm even taking measures for after my death, so that the code will not simply die with me because of absence of measures
Don't worry, no death in sight atm, just taking measures, just in case, an accident could happen.

That said i'll indeed have to rethink MuTools' economic side.

I think MuLab is too much seen as a DAW and too little as a creative modular sound & composition tool. The fact that it's perceived as a main stream DAW makes that it is put aside the big DAWs, all developed by bigger companies, and that's indeed an unhealthy situation. Not only as i can't compete with bigger teams (people for coding, people for docs & support, people for graphics, people for promo, people for website, people for admin, ...) but also because indeed MuLab has some unconventional concepts and the traditional DAW user regards that as odd. And this combination ie. the less polished product cause of the one man team and some unconventional concepts, also combined with the zeitgeist of fast instant blinky stuff with many fast blinky social media promos, makes it difficult for a product like MuLab, which is almost absent on social media.

There is a lot of sonic power in MuLab's modular sound system. Much of this sonic power is buried under the 'unconventional DAW' aspect. Maybe i should also create some separate plugins from MuLab?

[MuTools]

Also, I know that is requested and in the to-do list, but what about converting the recorded automations to the standard ones?

I had a quick look at this and i'm comfident this will be available on rather short time, possibly in MuLab 10.1.

[bibz1st]

Is the project for F1 something you can talk about or nda involved, sounds interesting. You did something in the past for F1 didnt you ?

[MuTools]

Is the project for F1 something you can talk about or nda involved, sounds interesting. You did something in the past for F1 didnt you ?

In contrast to the Muzys story, no NDA involved. Yes we started cooperating in 2010. It's about Team Radio. See this video, the MuTools software is also visible in that video:

[mgiambro]

Rest assured: As long as i live MuLab won't die
And step by step i'm even taking measures for after my death, so that the code will not simply die with me because of absence of measures
Don't worry, no death in sight atm, just taking measures, just in case, an accident could happen.

Great to hear!

I think MuLab is too much seen as a DAW and too little as a creative modular sound & composition tool.

I agree. MuLab is it's own thing and certainly shouldn't be thrown in with the big DAWs, especially recording focussed/all-rounders such as Reaper, Cubase etc. As a modular playground which can be used to build tracks it distinguishes itself.

also combined with the zeitgeist of fast instant blinky stuff with many fast blinky social media promos

It's unfortunate people are taken in by this stuff. I find fancy animations in daws gimmicky, unnecessary and off-putting. I'm sure they impress some people, but especially as a solo dev, there are better things to spend your time on.

Maybe i should also create some separate plugins from MuLab?

I was actually going to suggest creating some locked MuLab patches and releasing them as either free or PWYW plugins as a way to draw attention to MuLab.

Bottomline: I'm still passionate about developing audio and music software. Would love to continue for many many years. Hope to find the right economic ways to combinate my passion with great valuable products for many users, one of which will be MuLab.

I wish you all the very best. I think the best way us users can help is to get our music noticed, so we can then promote the tools we used to make it. I wish I could devote more time it! I'm working on that.

[RichardSemper]

Wow! Not only has the latest mulab fixed the Synth1 crashing issues, it can now load the old Plex synthesizer, which previously it wouldn't!

I think MuLab is too much seen as a DAW and too little as a creative modular sound & composition tool.

An Awesome creative modular sound & composition tool, with many unique capabilities!

As an amateur computer music enthusiast who loves playing with sounds and synthesis it is perfect for me. I don't need all those shiny, much hyped features of the mainstream DAWs - with their awkward cluttered interfaces, invasive updating and constant indexing. They seem intent on forcing me to do things in a particular way, when mulab gives me freedom to set things up how I want and just get on with the fun stuff.

Trouble with being pitted against the mainstream DAWs is that professionals will
a) mostly stick with what they know or what their studio and/or collaborators use.
b) have different expectations than the enthusiastic amateur.
c) take the 'safe' option of using the most popular DAW with the larger development team and marketing department.
d) be wary of the learning curve of the alternative option

Rather than going up against the 'mainstream' Mulab needs to consolidate and expand its position with enthusiasts as An Awesome creative modular sound & composition tool, with many unique capabilities!

Maybe i should also create some separate plugins from MuLab?

This seems an excellent idea and could expand the reach of mulab.
Might it be possible to enable others to create vst/clap plugins using the mulab framework? This might enable expanding reach more quickly than doing it all by yourself?

[Michael L]

I think MuLab is too much seen as a DAW and too little as a creative modular sound & composition tool.

Yes, I see the Demo tracks use only the DAW features, and not the creative modular sound & composition features like the audio sequencer.

Might it be possible to enable others to create vst/clap plugins using the mulab framework? This might enable expanding reach more quickly than doing it all by yourself?

There are existing platforms to make plugins with some coding (MATLAB) or none, using AI (Replit).

I wonder if collaboration at the R & D stage with users who have specific in-depth knowledge can speed up development? Similarly, could a few knowledgeable users collaborate on marketing activities?

[sl23]

Another crash:
This time, I left my PC on overnight but locked. I've just logged in to see a crashed MuLab. No log file was produced, unless it's the one attached below. But the time of that was earlier than when I was using it yesterday!

Log-20250606-191212.zip

[MuTools]

Thx for the log, it does contain crash info from 6 june, with at least 1 overnight, will check that.
M10.0.61 was already compiled so it will be for another update.

[MuTools]

MuLab App M10.0.61 beta for Windows 64 bit is available on https://www.mutools.com/mulab/app/lates ... /beta.html

What's changed:

• Sequence Graph Editor: Option to convert a (recorded) graph like MIDI CC, Aftertouch, Pitchbend or Parameter into an envelope clip.
  To do so right-click the left side header of the graph section, where it shows which graph is shown -> "Convert To Envelope Clip".
  This conversion function uses a specialized technique to avoid that each and every event results in an individual envelope point, as that's not user friendly.
  So this conversion function will analyze the event graph and distilate an envelope from it with as few yet as many envelope points as necessary to practically reconstruct the original event based graph.
  Note that it's planned to add an option to do this automatically for new recordings but this needs extra R&D attention and is not yet included in this update.
  At least there already is a way to convert it
• Multi-Sample Editor & Note Zone Mapper: Moving key-zones now is undoable.
• Added Ctrl+R as factory shortcut to Repeat Last Context Function.
• Several small improvements to the new curve system wrt both the rendering and the drawing aspects.
• Other improvements.

[sl23]

Ok, thanks Jo

[MuTools]

Ok i check that log. It's a very exceptional case, and possibly system specific. It crashes on an odd memory corruption issue immediately after the computer woke up after an overnight, i assume in Sleep or Hybernate modus. I don't immediately see a reason in MuLab. Did a quick internet search on the topic and read some info that this can happen on wakeup on certain systems. Atm i can only recommend to avoid that case on your system.

[MuTools]

MuLab Plugin 10.0.61 for Windows 64 bit is available on https://www.mutools.com/mulab/plugin/la ... /beta.html

This includes all recent enhancements since MuLab 10.0.54.