Tracktion cut&paste question

[seamonkey]

Ok, I've recorded two takes of a vocal on 2 separate tracks with a little over 3 minute duration.
I took about a two bar vocal snippet from track 1 and placed it onto track 2 to fix a slight vocal mistake.
So good so far, track 2 now sounds good.
However, I am deleting the new audio edits to bring the file down in size and trimming off all unecessary data so that all that remains is track 2 and it's filter.
When I delete track 1 and go back to my project I get file missing.

How can I keep track 1's small vocal snippet and trim off the extra 3 plus minutes and still keep the file?

I don't know if I'm explaining this very well but I'm confused.

[nuisance sonore]

Tracktion editing is non-destructive, a very desirable feature in a sequencer but it means you have to render the edited part to a new track and delete the old from the project.

[AD80]

After trimming the vocal part you want, you should put it on its own track and "render track". This will create a new file thats the size you want. Then you can go to the projects page and delete the original (big) file, and keep the new smaller file. You can also get rid of the unused files when you're completely done with the whole song, by selecting the project, then choosing "find orphan clips". This will give you a list of all the files you're not using, that way you can delete them all at once.

Tracktion uses the clips as references for the original audio file.

[AD80]

Ezy Ryder beat me to it.

[seamonkey]

thanks Ezy,I think I understand.
When I tried rendering it earlier it came back up as a new audio edit with the 3 plus minutes even though I deleted everything before and after the two bar clip.

I'll give it another go.

[valley]

another approach - export the edit, and select trim all handles.

reimport the edit into the parent project, and *all* of your audio will be trimmed...

[seamonkey]

thanks everyone, I just rendered the track and was able to delete the large new audio edit file and keep the trimmed edit.
Works great!
Thanks valley, I'll give that a try as well.

Where in the hell do you find out this stuff cause I sure didn't read that in the manual?

[valley]

for me, mostky tinkering around...

If I find a setting option, it niggles at me till I know what it does...

[seamonkey]

After trimming the vocal part you want, you should put it on its own track and "render track". This will create a new file thats the size you want. Then you can go to the projects page and delete the original (big) file, and keep the new smaller file. You can also get rid of the unused files when you're completely done with the whole song, by selecting the project, then choosing "find orphan clips". This will give you a list of all the files you're not using, that way you can delete them all at once.

Tracktion uses the clips as references for the original audio file.

Thanks AD80, your detailed explanation really helped.

valley thanks for always helping out here in Tracktionland.

Ezy thanks for your help as well.

Gotta go, I've got some editing to do.

[AD80]

Small tips:

Control-T creates a new empty track
Shift-Drag will let you move the clip to a different track without changing its place in time (left-right).

It makes it faster to edit with these short cuts.

[seamonkey]

Small tips:

Control-T creates a new empty track
Shift-Drag will let you move the clip to a different track without changing its place in time (left-right).

It makes it faster to edit with these short cuts.

Thanks that helps me alot, especially the Shift-drag suggestion, I was dragging it down and then fitting it in, very tedious.

[AD80]

Small tips:

Control-T creates a new empty track
Shift-Drag will let you move the clip to a different track without changing its place in time (left-right).

It makes it faster to edit with these short cuts.

Thanks that helps me alot, especially the Shift-drag suggestion, I was dragging it down and then fitting it in, very tedious.

No Prob

[djsubject]

Small tips:

Shift-Drag will let you move the clip to a different track without changing its place in time (left-right).

AD80 thank you thats verry helpfull for me. knew there must be a way

[AD80]

Simple but effective .

[Lunch Money]

Shift+drag is something I use ALL the time. It's fairly intuitive since Shift+drag does things like fixed-geometry polygons in draw programs.

Greg