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2NDMOUSE wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:16 pm
Been using FL since version 3.0, so I'm very set in it's ways. There's no perfect DAW.......unless someone came up with a hybrid "Flitwig" ( you heard it here first ) , and combined all the best things about both into one all conquering Mega-DAW :love:
Well, if you survived 20 years of FL, Bitwig will be like a walk in the park.
Regarding Flitwig; you can just use FL as a vst inside Bitwig.

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A feature request to v6 : if it's not some kind of separate stereo automation thing in the v6 picture, please hide those two stereo waveforms and make one big waveform instead. Looks a little bit cluttered now.

(Also it would be nice to have a little volume faders in the device panel where there's little volume meters around every device.)

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tumface wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 11:15 pm Just curious, and not to derail this thread, and feel free to not reply if you don't want to -- what has changed in FL that's made it become super annoying to you recently? (Or what has changed with your own circumstances?)
Honestly, I switched from FL Studio to Maschine back in 2013, and even then I felt like FL was an awkward conglomeration of mismatched interface ideas dating back to its original creation.

Maybe it got a much-needed overhaul after that, and maybe it's due for another one, I don't know.

When Maschine 2.0 came out it was fairly clean and simple, given its evolution from a sample-based drum machine to almost a full-featured DAW. I learned the entire thing and figured out how I wanted to work with it in a couple of hours. As new features were added, it did get a little more... lumpy. But still it was easy to navigate and I could work faster in it than FL... even if by the end of my run with it, was making partially hardware-based, modular ambient music that rarely even used drums.

Bitwig took more learning and adapting to. I don't use it in a Live-like way as it was originally designed, but its modulation, routing, Grid etc. suit me very well. The master recording feature let me get rid of a stupid workaround I had gotten used to. I still maintain that being able to run plugins in the Grid would be the final touch for me -- I would happily run entire multichannel hybrid hardware/software projects out of a single FX Grid instance and never even look at the device panel, clip launcher or mixer. :hihi:

2NDMOUSE wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 7:11 pm Dedicated wet / dry controls on any plugin, for automating the degree of applied effect, would be an essential.

Unless I'm mistaken, there aren't any. If that's indeed the case, I'm pretty amazed something that basic would be omitted. I'd rather not have to add fx layer just for that really basic thing.
I'm a BW Noob, so it's very possible I've overlooked something ?
Where plugins are missing a Wet/Dry control (which is pretty rare) I just use a Chain device.

(More commonly, I use chain for things like pre- or post-EQ for effects, or distorted reverb tails or whatever.)

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1 week!

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Only now noticing the midi clip named Acustic Drums Dilla 1 - w Perc…

The only thing you think of when talking about Dilla is drums and (insert drumroll 🥁) swing/groove. Damn I’m excited now. 😎

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kunonagel wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 7:46 pm Only now noticing the midi clip named Acustic Drums Dilla 1 - w Perc…

The only thing you think of when talking about Dilla is drums and (insert drumroll 🥁) swing/groove. Damn I’m excited now. 😎
Oh god, that would be a dream come true.

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It's so obvious, yet I didn't pick up on this! Still I'm not going to hype myself too much in case it isn't there.

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2NDMOUSE wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:05 pm .
Probably a dumb question, and I haven't had my coffee yet, but if I only had say, 1 reverb on a channel, and wanted to automate the wet signal, can I add a single vst to a group just to get a wet / dry dial ?

I tend not to use native plugins in any DAW, and the devs never make things as easy for 3rd party plugins. Midi learn is another area where they tend to make it more awkward than it is for a native plugin.
There's no dumb questions. I do this two ways.

Group plug ins inside the channel strip, this puts them in a collapsible set, in order, and adds the group level mix control, it can have just one plug in.

The other grouping I use a lot, is grouping one or more channels. This nests the channel inside a group. You can then add a local FX send channel that is only inside that group, this has its own channel and is good for reverbs and delays where you may want to add e.g. EQ and compression before and after.

Both have their place and can be super useful. The group one.plug in I use often as quite a few plugins don't have mix plug in built in, and even if they do it's not so accessible.

I do think having a mix control by default on every plug in, in the channel strip would be very useful though. It would be tidier than adding a group just for a mix control.

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kunonagel wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 7:46 pm Only now noticing the midi clip named Acustic Drums Dilla 1 - w Perc…

The only thing you think of when talking about Dilla is drums and (insert drumroll 🥁) swing/groove. Damn I’m excited now. 😎
This is one of my top requests. I'm not going to get my hopes up though.

If it is then I hope they've taken a straight forwards and flexible approach, and one we can load midi grooves into.

Sometimes they have tried to be a little bit too clever. This better not be one of those times!! :hihi:

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I bought Bitwig Studio nearly a year ago, and have hardly used it, but because version 6 is coming out and I just about qualify for the beta I thought I would give it a go. So here's my question. Is the piano roll editing really as bad as I am experiencing (without reading the manual) or is it just me?
I played everything in by hand and wanted to edit a bad note, but every time I click it just goes back to the beginning? It seems very bare bones. Am I supposed to use the side panel or something?

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dellboy wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 12:50 pm but every time I click it just goes back to the beginning?
What goes back to the beginning? The playhead, or the note?

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tumface wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:06 pm
dellboy wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 12:50 pm but every time I click it just goes back to the beginning?
What goes back to the beginning? The playhead, or the note?
The playhead. I usually record in real time with audio so I am not used to midi editing. I watched a Bitwig video that did not answer my question. Since I made this post I have tried out a copy of Live 8 track that I had installed and found the midi editing on that very intuitive and easy to use even though I have never used Live midi editing before. I will go back to Bitwig and give it another try, there must be something simple I am missing?

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dellboy wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:39 pm there must be something simple I am missing?
Click in the time ruler bar to set the playhead start position.
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tumface wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:23 pm
dellboy wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:39 pm there must be something simple I am missing?
Click in the time ruler bar to set the playhead start position.

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Thanks for that tip, it helps. I also found an orange arrow that can be placed to start the playhead from. What I really want is something like "midi scrub", so you can pass over the part to isolate the offending note. Is there no way to "pause" the playhead? If you hit the spacebar it always goes back to start instead of pausing.

edit* I just found that if you hit the spacebar twice it goes back to the orange arrow and plays from there.

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shift p?

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