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coroknight wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 3:48 pm AVX2 being able to process 2x as much data in a single instruction is not small, and it makes a difference when you tell your engineering team they can rely on that when considering features, algorithms, etc.
Hardcoding a specific SIMD register size in your algorithms is usually not a good idea, as it requires writing multiple versions of nearly identical code. A much simpler approach is to create a generic algorithm that uses some tricks like padding the end of aligned buffers to get rid of loop peeling. The register size here is just a parameter determined by the target instruction set.
Of course, this requires some level of abstraction and libraries like XSimd can help. As I said earlier, I doubt the Bitwig devs use raw SIMD intrinsics directly. It'd require deep knowledge of various microarchitectures and a lot of time. They create separate binaries for different sets, probably because it's simpler/faster, than having a dynamic dispatch in the source code.

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Just noticed 6 doesn't offer the lighter arranger background? Hopefully this will be an option again in the near future? You can't just remove things!! But seriously, please bring it back

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Now this is my kind of update. I will be renewing for sure. A lot of my personal issues with Bitwig have been addressed it seems.

Very excited to give this a go!

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Solid update. Looks great too. I'm going to wait until it's out of beta, and go for it. Like a refreshing drink. Ahhh. :D
-JH

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vroteg wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 4:39 pm Wow. What a reason to leave a post here nobody cares about. I’ll be quick.

Yeah, some features are nice, but again, way overdue. Other DAWs have had them for years.

Bitwig keeps doing the same thing like move stuff around, slap a new tag on it. Just like they did with the mixer page.

This time, nothing revolutionary either. Which is probably good, since they’re already behind everyone and should focus on the basics first.

Instead of a proper smart tool, we get even more random tools to confuse users. Yaay.

Still missing tons of functionality people have been asking for for years. Maybe next year… hard to believe though.

And the big ones… Clippy and Spray Paint. Seriously? Are we back in Windows 95? Looks awful. Pure cringe.
The one thing you’re right about is nobody cares, about your opinion.

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JHernandez wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 6:10 pm Solid update. Looks great too. I'm going to wait until it's out of beta, and go for it. Like a refreshing drink. Ahhh. :D
+1

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Looks like a great update to me. A lot of nice workflow improvements!
Congrats Bitwig team!

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cfernn wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 6:01 pm Just noticed 6 doesn't offer the lighter arranger background? Hopefully this will be an option again in the near future? You can't just remove things!! But seriously, please bring it back
In the settings (bottom right corner of arrange) you can set the background of arrange from about what it was before to dark.
You can also adjust grid lines.

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koalaboy wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 5:12 pm
pdxindy wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 5:04 pm I just tried it out a bit. I made an Automation Clip on a tracks Volume. Then I made a Macro at the track level and assigned it to Track Volume and made an Automation Clip for it. I have both of those AC's in the Clip Launcher and they are controlling the track volume while the Arranger Midi clip on that track is playing notes.

It's absurdly powerful as is... and easy to have multiple active lanes for the same parameter this way.
Yeah, that does work... but means you need to dip into macros, which I rarely if ever use. It would just be nicer (for me) to see the individual things in automation lanes/clips. I appreciate that other DAWs don't allow that as well, but if I can assign different lanes/clips to different macros, that all target the same parameter, it doesn't seem too much to ask to just have multiple clips/lanes for that parameter.

For now, I'll just end up having a lot of macro knobs to be 'pretend' duplicate lanes :dog:
Probably this should work or be possible if you create a new pitch automation it would need a unique name like pitchautomation.002 or whatever to be able to sort things. I think they might not thought about this but regarding coding I would be surprised if this wouldn’t work.

The modulator workaround is not a big deal for me but this would be cool too as it would be quicker for the macro cases.

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The only thing i find a bit weird is that within a midiclip all differnt notes have a different color. Can that be switched off?

Maybe i get used to it not sure.....for sure not the way it used to be and with a lot other daws aswell. Maybe im to conservative minded at the moment

Maybe good for quicker reference between each note?

Colourfull its is
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Is the beta quite stable ?

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Jolaff wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 7:18 pm Is the beta quite stable ?
For me no crash till now played a few hours with it...

On Linux with quite a few yabridged windows plugins

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Erwin78 wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 5:43 pm Indeed. I was also hoping for better overall performance with the new graphics but ChatGPT told me it's worse. I'll be waiting with activating my upgrade plan.
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It's worse since the previous graphics upgrade. Not taking chances now. That's all I'm saying.
No, it's not. It's actually slightly better. You might have an AI addiction problem.

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psycha0s wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 5:55 pm
coroknight wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 3:48 pm AVX2 being able to process 2x as much data in a single instruction is not small, and it makes a difference when you tell your engineering team they can rely on that when considering features, algorithms, etc.
Hardcoding a specific SIMD register size in your algorithms is usually not a good idea, as it requires writing multiple versions of nearly identical code. A much simpler approach is to create a generic algorithm that uses some tricks like padding the end of aligned buffers to get rid of loop peeling. The register size here is just a parameter determined by the target instruction set.
Of course, this requires some level of abstraction and libraries like XSimd can help. As I said earlier, I doubt the Bitwig devs use raw SIMD intrinsics directly. It'd require deep knowledge of various microarchitectures and a lot of time. They create separate binaries for different sets, probably because it's simpler/faster, than having a dynamic dispatch in the source code.
*sigh* nope, totally misunderstood what I said. Here's a hint: There's a reason I pointed out AVX2 can process 2x the data per instruction compared to SSE.

It's because being able to process data faster increases the baseline performance of your algorithms, which means you can theoretically do more things, fancier things.

Imagine a world without SIMD at all, how would that change the audio software landscape? Would the same products with the same features be viable? People already complain about Serum 2 performance with SIMD. I'd imagine the devs would have made different choices if they couldn't use SIMD at all. Same with things like the bitwig grid, that 4x oversampling is enabled by SIMD. SIMD is what makes that quality and those features viable as products.

So yeah, I'd say moving towards AVX2 as a baseline is a good thing. It'll allow devs to feel comfortable making different choices that benefit those of us who have a computer made in the last 10 years.

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questionaire wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 6:59 pm The only thing i find a bit weird is that within a midiclip all differnt notes have a different color. Can that be switched off?

Maybe i get used to it not sure.....for sure not the way it used to be and with a lot other daws aswell. Maybe im to conservative minded at the moment

Maybe good for quicker reference between each note?

Colourfull its is
Change it by right-clicking on the toolbar area on the right side of the piano roll. It's a bit hard to find.
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