Bitwig 6

[tumface]

*sigh* nope, totally misunderstood what I said. Here's a hint: There's a reason I pointed out AVX2 can process 2x the data per instruction compared to SSE.

It's because being able to process data faster increases the baseline performance of your algorithms, which means you can theoretically do more things, fancier things.

Imagine a world without SIMD at all, how would that change the audio software landscape? Would the same products with the same features be viable? People already complain about Serum 2 performance with SIMD. I'd imagine the devs would have made different choices if they couldn't use SIMD at all. Same with things like the bitwig grid, that 4x oversampling is enabled by SIMD. SIMD is what makes that quality and those features viable as products.

So yeah, I'd say moving towards AVX2 as a baseline is a good thing. It'll allow devs to feel comfortable making different choices that benefit those of us who have a computer made in the last 10 years.

You misunderstood what the person you're replying to wrote. He's right and you're wrong. I write SIMD code for multiple platforms, by hand, for my job.

[monolithx]

Wow. What a reason to leave a post here nobody cares about. I’ll be quick.

Yeah, some features are nice, but again, way overdue. Other DAWs have had them for years.

Bitwig keeps doing the same thing like move stuff around, slap a new tag on it. Just like they did with the mixer page.

This time, nothing revolutionary either. Which is probably good, since they’re already behind everyone and should focus on the basics first.

Instead of a proper smart tool, we get even more random tools to confuse users. Yaay.

Still missing tons of functionality people have been asking for for years. Maybe next year… hard to believe though.

And the big ones… Clippy and Spray Paint. Seriously? Are we back in Windows 95? Looks awful. Pure cringe.

The one thing you’re right about is nobody cares, about your opinion.

I do New fancy colored features on weak foundations. And they remain as is after this update.

[cfernn]

In the settings (bottom right corner of arrange) you can set the background of arrange from about what it was before to dark.
You can also adjust grid lines.

Ahh really? Okay if that's the case then I'm stoked. I'm not testing the beta so I'm only going off of Polarity's stream.

[tumface]

I do New fancy colored features on weak foundations. And they remain as is after this update.

These are very important features for many users that have been requested for years, delivered all together as a well-designed and coherent update on top of one of the DAW that has some of the most robust internals of them all. I have no idea what fantasy land this comment is coming from, frankly.

[tumface]

Is the beta quite stable ?

Yes. No crashes after using it for a few hours. That being said, many of the new features have some interaction jank. I've reported 6 or 7 of them so far. (Example: tapping the alt key on the keyboard causes the currently selected clip to become unselected if your mouse is hovering over the empty part of an automation lane, for some reason.)

[coroknight]

*sigh* nope, totally misunderstood what I said. Here's a hint: There's a reason I pointed out AVX2 can process 2x the data per instruction compared to SSE.

It's because being able to process data faster increases the baseline performance of your algorithms, which means you can theoretically do more things, fancier things.

Imagine a world without SIMD at all, how would that change the audio software landscape? Would the same products with the same features be viable? People already complain about Serum 2 performance with SIMD. I'd imagine the devs would have made different choices if they couldn't use SIMD at all. Same with things like the bitwig grid, that 4x oversampling is enabled by SIMD. SIMD is what makes that quality and those features viable as products.

So yeah, I'd say moving towards AVX2 as a baseline is a good thing. It'll allow devs to feel comfortable making different choices that benefit those of us who have a computer made in the last 10 years.

You misunderstood what the person you're replying to wrote. He's right and you're wrong. I write SIMD code for multiple platforms, by hand, for my job.

Nope I totally understood what he said. I've written my share of SIMD code too. I understand there are SIMD abstractions that make code adaptable to different instruction sets.

That doesn't change the fact that AVX2 can process 2x the data per instruction, so there is a difference between targeting customers with SSE as a minimum requirement vs targeting AVX as a minimum requirement.

How are you so bad at reading dude? Seriously.

[stamp]

Wow. What a reason to leave a post here nobody cares about. I’ll be quick.

Yeah, some features are nice, but again, way overdue. Other DAWs have had them for years.

Bitwig keeps doing the same thing like move stuff around, slap a new tag on it. Just like they did with the mixer page.

This time, nothing revolutionary either. Which is probably good, since they’re already behind everyone and should focus on the basics first.

Instead of a proper smart tool, we get even more random tools to confuse users. Yaay.

Still missing tons of functionality people have been asking for for years. Maybe next year… hard to believe though.

And the big ones… Clippy and Spray Paint. Seriously? Are we back in Windows 95? Looks awful. Pure cringe.

They didn't add the features that every other daw has in this update. Unbelievable!

Have you tried reaper?

[coroknight]

I honestly don't know how I could explain myself any clearer. I'm just going to assume you're trolling at this point and block you and end this convo. You'd think an engineer would understand that engineering decisions and product decisions change if your hardware targets change.

[tumface]

That doesn't change the fact that AVX2 can process 2x the data per instruction, so there is a difference between targeting customers with SSE as a minimum requirement vs targeting AVX as a minimum requirement.

Can you address the part of his post where he said that both can be delivered as code paths chosen by CPU feature set?

[tumface]

I honestly don't know how I could explain myself any clearer. I'm just going to assume you're trolling at this point and block you and end this convo. You'd think an engineer would understand that engineering decisions and product decisions change if your hardware targets change.

I think that would be preferable, yes. You don't know what you're talking about and I'd rather not engage with you anymore. I'll block you, as well. Hopefully people reading this thread do not take what you wrote as truth about how computer instruction sets work.

[pdxindy]

In the settings (bottom right corner of arrange) you can set the background of arrange from about what it was before to dark.
You can also adjust grid lines.

Ahh really? Okay if that's the case then I'm stoked. I'm not testing the beta so I'm only going off of Polarity's stream.

I prefer the darker Arrange background, but if someone prefers the previous lighter background, then they will be fine.

The grid lines can be dark or light and the intensity set. I'm undecided on darker or lighter so will try each for a week or so and see.

[questionaire]

The only thing i find a bit weird is that within a midiclip all differnt notes have a different color. Can that be switched off?

Maybe i get used to it not sure.....for sure not the way it used to be and with a lot other daws aswell. Maybe im to conservative minded at the moment

Maybe good for quicker reference between each note?

Colourfull its is

Change it by right-clicking on the toolbar area on the right side of the piano roll. It's a bit hard to find.

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Cool that way i can maybe acustomed to it slowly, first back to the old days

[tumface]

Cool that way i can maybe acustomed to it slowly, first back to the old days

Personally, I prefer to color by MIDI channel or clip color. The confetti party mode piano roll is a bit too much for me

[Erwin78]

Indeed. I was also hoping for better overall performance with the new graphics but ChatGPT told me it's worse. I'll be waiting with activating my upgrade plan.
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It's worse since the previous graphics upgrade. Not taking chances now. That's all I'm saying.

No, it's not. It's actually slightly better. You might have an AI addiction problem.

On my hardware it is. Are you serious with that remark about AI? Still growing up right?

[questionaire]

Cool that way i can maybe acustomed to it slowly, first back to the old days

Personally, I prefer to color by MIDI channel or clip color. The confetti party mode piano roll is a bit too much for me

I will give it a try for a few days, but glad that it can be switched to clip color