Bitwig 6

[stamp]

I get it, I didn't think I would want to use them either, but I've discovered it's super handy for refactoring projects without having to go back and copy things. Namely because it can automatically detect duplicates and turn them into aliases which means I can use the feature only when I need to do a mass update of something I've decided to change.

Mmmh.. that's a good use for alias clips. Thanks for showing me another perspective.

Another use someone else mentioned, is when they have a bunch of copies of the same audio clip in Arrange, they can use the Merge Duplicates command which turns all copies of that clip into aliases, then the can replace the audio event and all the clips update. A fast way to replace a bunch of iterations of the same sample.

This was allready possible using the files section of the project panel but using alias clips you can use side browser instead of win/mac/linux file explorer. More comfortable for sure.

[Milkman]

Well... get posting over there!!

From a game theory perspective, it's better if I don't, so that other people are more likely to also report the bug, instead of being complacent.

"From a game theory perspective" lol rad! Lets bring DoD sociopathy into bug reporting methodology, since it works so well as US foreign policy!

[Dionysos]

Personally I see hardly any benefit for alias clips in my workflow.

That's ok, everyone works differently. As a former FL Studio user, alias clips are so natural to my workflow that I actually installed the Bitwig 6 beta over Bitwig 5 after a short trial. There's no going back for me.

I mean if I want a 1 bar clip to extend for 8 bars extending it the ''old'' way is just faster. Do you really prefer having to duplicate it 7 times or doubling content 3 times?

Yes, by far. I prefer working with individual clips, they're easier to handle and modify later than long stretches of a single looped clip.

Another negative imo is that you have to keep track of what is aliased and if you mess up you will have a clip somewhere that is changing without you even knowing and maybe the old version of that clip was just better in that context.

I've only ever read of such issues in forums, never experienced them myself. I assume it's just a different way of thinking about how your music is organised. Keep in mind that in DAWs like FL, alias clips are the default.

I don't know. It's just one more opportunity for your brain to switch in a more technical and less creative state and we all know how hard sometimes it is to get in that creative state and how easy it is to get lost in technicalities.

I didn't feel more creative in Bitwig 5 when I spent ages brainlessly copying a fundamental change to my main loop across the entire project.

To me, the key workflow that alias clips enable is to be able to block out an entire dummy arrangement in the early stages, while still being able to easily change anything going on inside of the clips later. To me, this is a killer feature and helps me finish tracks and get into "full song mode" earlier, without having to fully commit to an unpolished musical idea.

[pseudonym_303]

To me, the key workflow that alias clips enable is to be able to block out an entire dummy arrangement in the early stages, while still being able to easily change anything going on inside of the clips later.

This is why it was my no. 1 FR. A lot of small clips scattered across the arrangement. You can change one and have updates everywhere.
Only paper clip icon could be better like chain, lock, or single line paper clip.

[Jolaff]

Is there a list of known features that doesn't work yet somewhere ...or a list of known bugs ?

Because I see that we cannot bounce in place a clip in a group track anymore and I'm a bit worried...

[pdxindy]

Is there a list of known features that doesn't work yet somewhere ...or a list of known bugs ?

Because I see that we cannot bounce in place a clip in a group track anymore and I'm a bit worried...

In Bitwig 6, select Show Track Group Master - then a Group Master track shows up as a track in the Group. You can bounce-in-place in the Group Master track as expected.

[Jolaff]

Is there a list of known features that doesn't work yet somewhere ...or a list of known bugs ?

Because I see that we cannot bounce in place a clip in a group track anymore and I'm a bit worried...

In Bitwig 6, select Show Track Group Master - then a Group Master track shows up as a track in the Group. You can bounce-in-place in the Group Master track as expected.

This is extra steps. Is there a way to save the "master audio clip" (Save arranger clip to Library) as before which will recall all the tracks inside the group ? It doesn't seam to work....

[pdxindy]

Is there a list of known features that doesn't work yet somewhere ...or a list of known bugs ?

Because I see that we cannot bounce in place a clip in a group track anymore and I'm a bit worried...

In Bitwig 6, select Show Track Group Master - then a Group Master track shows up as a track in the Group. You can bounce-in-place in the Group Master track as expected.

This is extra steps. Is there a way to save the "master audio clip" (Save arranger clip to Library) as before which will recall all the tracks inside the group ? It doesn't seam to work....

I haven't tried saving a clip... that would be a bummer of that is not possible anymore. Please send an email about it to the beta email.

[stamp]

In Bitwig 6, select Show Track Group Master - then a Group Master track shows up as a track in the Group. You can bounce-in-place in the Group Master track as expected.

[perpetual3]

Well... get posting over there!!

From a game theory perspective, it's better if I don't, so that other people are more likely to also report the bug, instead of being complacent.

"From a game theory perspective" lol rad! Lets bring DoD sociopathy into bug reporting methodology, since it works so well as US foreign policy!

Strawman.

[Jolaff]

Is there a list of known features that doesn't work yet somewhere ...or a list of known bugs ?

Because I see that we cannot bounce in place a clip in a group track anymore and I'm a bit worried...

In Bitwig 6, select Show Track Group Master - then a Group Master track shows up as a track in the Group. You can bounce-in-place in the Group Master track as expected.

This is extra steps. Is there a way to save the "master audio clip" (Save arranger clip to Library) as before which will recall all the tracks inside the group ? It doesn't seam to work....

I haven't tried saving a clip... that would be a bummer of that is not possible anymore. Please send an email about it to the beta email.

Saving a group clip doesn't work anymore. It only saves the first track of the group. An not being able to bounce it before saving it is also a bummer because having the audio file of the clip allows the browser to preview the loop instantly without having to load all plugins of the tracks which always creates a delay... anyway ... email is sent...

[pdxindy]

Saving a group clip doesn't work anymore. It only saves the first track of the group. An not being able to bounce it before saving it is also a bummer because having the audio file of the clip allows the browser to preview the loop instantly without having to load all plugins of the tracks which always creates a delay... anyway ... email is sent...

Thanks for sending an email... hopefully they address this!

[Milkman]

Well... get posting over there!!

From a game theory perspective, it's better if I don't, so that other people are more likely to also report the bug, instead of being complacent.

"From a game theory perspective" lol rad! Lets bring DoD sociopathy into bug reporting methodology, since it works so well as US foreign policy!

Strawman.

Caveman.

[wintoid]

Strawman.

Caveman.

Milkman! Sorry

[gulugulufish]

I get it, I didn't think I would want to use them either, but I've discovered it's super handy for refactoring projects without having to go back and copy things. Namely because it can automatically detect duplicates and turn them into aliases which means I can use the feature only when I need to do a mass update of something I've decided to change.

Mmmh.. that's a good use for alias clips. Thanks for showing me another perspective.

Another use someone else mentioned, is when they have a bunch of copies of the same audio clip in Arrange, they can use the Merge Duplicates command which turns all copies of that clip into aliases, then the can replace the audio event and all the clips update. A fast way to replace a bunch of iterations of the same sample.

thats exactly what I was trying to say, in a different way. (EDIT: though I didn't mean just samples, thanks for explaining that as it's particularly handy to know)