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jamcat wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 7:44 pm UADx uses Machine Authorization now, no iLok needed.
Hmm. Ilok is needed. This one from their website:

Native plug-ins are supported on macOS and Windows systems. See our Native UAD System Requirements article for full system requirements. An iLok account is required for managing your native plug-in licenses. We support iLok USB keys for portability, but one is not required.

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I think that is what he was referring to. Managing authorizations through ilok to the computer, not a dongle.

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Before I got the UADx LA-2A bundle, I used IK Multimedia White 2A. Like Universal Audio, IK actually modeled the physics of the luminescent panel and optical sensor of the T4 cell, and the tube amplifier. The result is pretty close to the UAD LA-2A (though IK's tube model isn't nearly as "hot" as UA's.)

What IK didn't model, though, is the R37 HF sensitivity control, which is crucial for reproducing the full range of the LA-2A's behavior. About 2 years ago, UA released a free version of the LA2A called "LA-2A Tube Compressor" that also lacks the R37.
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Alexander_D wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 8:48 pm
jamcat wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 8:42 pm
Alexander_D wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 8:17 pm
jamcat wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 7:44 pm UADx uses Machine Authorization now, no iLok needed.
Hmm. Really? BTW I heard so many ugly thoughts about UA Connect...
Don't buy into that. UA Connect pops up here when I open my DAW maybe once every couple months. So what? People will seriously complain about anything. What they're actually mad about is that UAD plugins have never been cracked.
I was used some if they free plugins one year ago. It was on Ilok plus UA protection. Honestly not the best option for the computer. And I personally don't like the glitch on the first load. Maybe now it's better?
iLok Cloud could cause the blurred UI to linger for a couple seconds during load and authentication. With Machine ID, the initial blur during load is so quick you'll miss it unless you're really focused on it. It is a non-issue. I don't know how old your computer would have to be for it to actually be anything you notice. And even then, it's only for a split second when you open the plugin UI for the first time. There are a lot more serious things to worry about from other plugins, like not actually resembling an LA-2A at all, except for a superficial GUI skin.

bnz wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 8:59 pm I think that is what he was referring to. Managing authorizations through ilok to the computer, not a dongle.
Right. You still need a free iLok account, but without a USB dongle, it's no different than any other authorization manager software that just about all major brands use.
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Think that UA actually offered their free LA2A quite recently.
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El°HYM wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 9:22 pm Think that UA actually offered their free LA2A quite recently.
The UA LA-2A Tube Compressor is £16 at PB (with a free copy of UVI ReLayer). Seems reasonable.
https://www.pluginboutique.com/products ... EyOTM2MTAw

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El°HYM wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 9:22 pm Think that UA actually offered their free LA2A quite recently.
You can get it for free right now (until the 15th).
LINK: https://www.uaudio.com/products/teletro ... compressor

It was actually first released 23 months ago to the day.
https://www.uaudio.com/blogs/press/la-2 ... n-giveaway
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jamcat wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 9:12 pm Right. You still need a free iLok account, but without a USB dongle, it's no different than any other authorization manager software that just about all major brands use.
Not all authorization software keeps a constant up/down internet connection sending data to who knows where for who knows what reason. Most run when needed then shut down when the authorization is completed.

Yeah I know you don't care but some people do. You can ridicule them if that makes you feel better but that doesn't validate your opinion in any way shape or form.

I won't debate it any further.
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Alexander_D wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 8:17 pm
jamcat wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 7:44 pm UADx uses Machine Authorization now, no iLok needed.
Hmm. Really? BTW I heard so many ugly thoughts about UA Connect...
I've only once had an issue with UA Connect, but it was about authorizing new software. I couldn't make it happen, and the next day there as a Windows 11 update and all of the sudden it worked fine.
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Teksonik wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 12:27 am
jamcat wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 9:12 pm Right. You still need a free iLok account, but without a USB dongle, it's no different than any other authorization manager software that just about all major brands use.
Not all authorization software keeps a constant up/down internet connection sending data to who knows where for who knows what reason. Most run when needed then shut down when the authorization is completed.

Yeah I know you don't care but some people do. You can ridicule them if that makes you feel better but that doesn't validate your opinion in any way shape or form.

I won't debate it any further.
iLok doesn't do that either. iLok was literally designed for 100% offline computers.
Of course you won't debate it, because you don't know what you're talking about.
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jamcat wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 8:42 pm
Alexander_D wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 8:17 pm
jamcat wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 7:44 pm UADx uses Machine Authorization now, no iLok needed.
Hmm. Really? BTW I heard so many ugly thoughts about UA Connect...
Don't buy into that. UA Connect pops up here when I open my DAW maybe once every couple months. So what? People will seriously complain about anything. What they're actually mad about is that UAD plugins have never been cracked.
for me it opens up about every 10 days or so, sometimes even more often. But it's not an issue. In windows you can just rename the executable (make it have .bak extension, for example) and it won't bother you. There's probably similar easy diy fix for MacOS too. Then reverse the action when you want to check for updates. and do it again after that. They don't update so often so, maybe every 6 months is good for checking updates.

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bnz wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 7:25 pm I noticed the NI ones are made by Softube. Probably not the worst choice then.
Yeah, for sure. Just one thing confused me - the small interface of these compressors. But on my display for example their vus compressor looks ok.. so These three will be in the same area

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Those were made by Softube in commission for NI and I believe thats like 12 Years ago or so. There also was a recent Update, yet not sure what they changed. Overall maybe good enough to get the job done, yet we also have many better options by now, imho.
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El°HYM wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:19 am Those were made by Softube in commission for NI and I believe thats like 12 Years ago or so. There also was a recent Update, yet not sure what they changed. Overall maybe good enough to get the job done, yet we also have many better options by now, imho.
I found the stuff to be absolutely fine, loved using them. Very light on the CPU, I would probably still pick them over the UAD versions, if they didn't have the HiDPi problems.

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