Steinberg has released Cubase 14

[jancivil]

Both are doable. Created in the higher numbered version runs the risk of features that didn't exist before are missing is all.

[Igro]

Hi. Does anyone use Waves plugins such as CLA-76, CLA-2A, Puigtec EQP1A, VEQ3, VEQ4 and so on in Cubase 14? If you use a competely mono source and then insert those Waves plugins (mono versions), then you will get Stereo sound with quite good stereo spread. Lol. Goniometer will show this clearly. I don’t know how many Waves plugins are affected with this. Maybe many.

[Alexander_D]

I saw thoughts that Waves are not in the good rotation at all.. but maybe it's thoughts of course. I don't have any products from them BTW

[Igro]

Hi. Does anyone use Waves plugins such as CLA-76, CLA-2A, Puigtec EQP1A, VEQ3, VEQ4 and so on in Cubase 14? If you use a competely mono source and then insert those Waves plugins (mono versions), then you will get Stereo sound with quite good stereo spread. Lol. Goniometer will show this clearly. I don’t know how many Waves plugins are affected with this. Maybe many.

Ok. Cubase users told me, that I have to create a mono track first to use Waves mono plugins as effect inserts. I never had to do this in other daws, but this is how it works in Cubase.

[lfm]

Ok. Cubase users told me, that I have to create a mono track first to use Waves mono plugins as effect inserts. I never had to do this in other daws, but this is how it works in Cubase.

If you have Cubase Pro you can control in detail which channels go where between plugins. Left Cubase 2018 so don't remember what the feature was called though.

I know Reaper has this as well.

In Sonar you have a toggle on each track between stereo/mono which changes how things are routed. And can be a mess if you already have a stereo recording on the track and make it mono. No detailed control as I recall.

[mothra]

If you have Cubase Pro you can control in detail which channels go where between plugins. Left Cubase 2018 so don't remember what the feature was called though.

I know Reaper has this as well.

Cubase doesn't do anything of the sort like Reaper's ridiculous mono/stereo channel setup. Your track is either mono or stereo when you create it, it's one or the other. And if you need to switch, you hit the little button at the bottom of the channel strip. Prior to Cubase 13 or 14 when this button was added, you deleted your track and started from scratch.

Waves for some reason is still holding on to some 30 year old 'workflow' of having both mono and stereo plugins. Their plugins are not coded to auto-sense and adjust to the channel count. You have to make sure you open the correct one. It would really help clean up a DAW's list of plugins if they would get their act together and finally update them to accommodate how every other plugin is coded nowadays.

[lfm]

Cubase doesn't do anything of the sort like Reaper's ridiculous mono/stereo channel setup. Your track is either mono or stereo when you create it, it's one or the other. And if you need to switch, you hit the little button at the bottom of the channel strip. Prior to Cubase 13 or 14 when this button was added, you deleted your track and started from scratch.

Yes, Cubase does, it's called Routing Editor.

A screen dump from manual enclosed.

You just browse through each plugin loaded in a track and you can patch channels as you please from previous plugin to next. Some examples enclosed below as well.

Can be used when having more channels than some plugins have, like a surround setup but don't have surround plugins, or just stereo setup and mono plugins.

So you can insert multiple plugins of the same kind and bypass from some channels or run through plugin on others. Very useful.

[Igro]

That's interesting. Need to check this out.
Btw, while we talking about routing, I have a question.
For instance, I have a synth and 4 effects as channel inserts. And I want to send to a bus channel, but only from the second effect in the effect chain. Is it easy to do in Cubase?

If FL-Studio, all I need is to insert a special fx (it is called “send” effect) into any slot within the fx chain and the bus channel will receive it. In Bitwig is even more easier (literally two-three clicks)

[Igro]

That's interesting. Need to check this out.
Btw, while we talking about routing, I have a question.
For instance, I have a synth and 4 effects as channel inserts. And I want to send to a bus channel, but only from the second effect in the effect chain. Is it easy to do in Cubase?

If FL-Studio, all I need is to insert a special fx (it is called “send” effect) into any slot within the fx chain and the bus channel will receive it. In Bitwig is even more easier (literally two-three clicks)

I got to know, that it is not possible in Cubase.

[lfm]

I got to know, that it is not possible in Cubase.

It's possible in any daw, not only Cubase.

What you are asking is a very, very, very rare need on one track to do this?
- if it wasn't this rare it would be everywhere
- could be a patch point in between plugins to hook a send or similar

You just separate it into two levels of tracks/busses
- first level with plugins also use a send as required
- next level, having output from first level, the rest of the plugins you wanted
- done!

Look for solutions and expand imagination?

I played around with some obscure routing trying to make a plugin setup to emulate a leslie with horn and bassdrum some years ago.
- at the time in Reaper I did this
- so you need crossover filters and two stereo pan stuff
- if I used Waves Doppler twice and some EQ and made crossovers and routed channels through this package of plugins
- then made a effect chain preset(or what it was called) to load that over and over as needed
- this is an extremely rare need and require special routing in daw
- your need does not even require that complicated routing, pretty standard

[Trancit]

What you are asking is a very, very, very rare need on one track to do this?
...

It´s not necessarily very rare or a special need but a question of how you like to work and a question of simplicity...
Many tracks and complex routing tends you let you lose overview far more easy than doing more stuff on the actual track itself...

It´s perhaps the lack of knowledge what´s possible elsewhere or "surrender to the existing situation" that makes stuff like that not a lot asked for but i.e. in Studio One it´s possible to create a send effect on the same channel anywhere in the chain, the same for Reaper, very easy in FL Studio and Bitwig for the send being on the same channel or on a seperate send track...

So it´s not rare nor bound to a type of DAW (classic tape style or more non linear) that developers thought it can be enough helpful to put some effort into this...

[Igro]

I got to know, that it is not possible in Cubase.

It's possible in any daw, not only Cubase.

What you are asking is a very, very, very rare need on one track to do this?
- if it wasn't this rare it would be everywhere
- could be a patch point in between plugins to hook a send or similar

You just separate it into two levels of tracks/busses
- first level with plugins also use a send as required
- next level, having output from first level, the rest of the plugins you wanted
- done!

Look for solutions and expand imagination?

I played around with some obscure routing trying to make a plugin setup to emulate a leslie with horn and bassdrum some years ago.
- at the time in Reaper I did this
- so you need crossover filters and two stereo pan stuff
- if I used Waves Doppler twice and some EQ and made crossovers and routed channels through this package of plugins
- then made a effect chain preset(or what it was called) to load that over and over as needed
- this is an extremely rare need and require special routing in daw
- your need does not even require that complicated routing, pretty standard

Nothing is rare here. Unless you are doing acoustic music and etc. I need to send a pad or bass to another bus before a sidechain ducking plugin or distortion. It is very surprising that Cubase cant do that (or needs a veery complicated and time-consuming routing. From your post I still didn't understand how to do this). It is just a few clicks in other DAWs.

[xbitz]

you can still play around with the pre/post fader extraction point, but then I figured you also need to adjust the send levels with VCA fader moves, otherwise everything goes to the group at the same level.

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it can work

[Iva]

It feels like Cubase 14 has had the least number of updates out of any Cubase version. With version 15 right around the corner, there's been nothing since 14.0.32

[Igro]

you can still play around with the pre/post fader extraction point, but then I figured you also need to adjust the send levels with VCA fader moves, otherwise everything goes to the group at the same level.

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it can work

This indeed worked! So basically with that green line I spitted the signal. Everything that is located above that line is being sent to the group channel. Thank you!