To saturate or not to saturate

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aMUSEd wrote: Tue Sep 02, 2025 4:52 pm
Ah_Dziz wrote: Tue Sep 02, 2025 3:06 pm
Gamma-UT wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:51 pm
aMUSEd wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2025 11:00 pm I really liked the Audiodamage distortion Grind but it is discontinued - is Kombinat essentially the same algos but multi band?
Grind is wavetables for distortion. Kombinat is more conventional distortion with feedback (and multiband).

Kilohearts' ShaperTable is probably the closest to Grind at this point.
Grind can still be used for free. I was using it today. It is very similar to shapertable, and also has algorithmic distortion and a filter. Handy for drums.
Yeah but on Mac it needs Rosetta
that's a bummer. there's a wavetable waveshaper for reaktor and pure data as well as the Kilohearts one if it's something you want to use.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.

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Still, there are a large number of modern songs with heavy compression and saturation on vocals.

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Ah_Dziz wrote: Tue Sep 02, 2025 5:20 pm
aMUSEd wrote: Tue Sep 02, 2025 4:52 pm
Ah_Dziz wrote: Tue Sep 02, 2025 3:06 pm
Gamma-UT wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:51 pm
aMUSEd wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2025 11:00 pm I really liked the Audiodamage distortion Grind but it is discontinued - is Kombinat essentially the same algos but multi band?
Grind is wavetables for distortion. Kombinat is more conventional distortion with feedback (and multiband).

Kilohearts' ShaperTable is probably the closest to Grind at this point.
Grind can still be used for free. I was using it today. It is very similar to shapertable, and also has algorithmic distortion and a filter. Handy for drums.
Yeah but on Mac it needs Rosetta
that's a bummer. there's a wavetable waveshaper for reaktor and pure data as well as the Kilohearts one if it's something you want to use.
I know, and have the Kilohearts one, but there is something I like in Grind that makes it more than just a wavetable distortion effect - I think there is some additional saturation that makes it sound great

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There is an algorithmic distortion after the wavetable/ shaper that has a selectable distortion mode. It does sound great. I still use it all the time. Mostly on simple synth sounds or drums. It's great for sound design.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.

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Ah_Dziz wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 9:04 am There is an algorithmic distortion after the wavetable/ shaper that has a selectable distortion mode. It does sound great. I still use it all the time. Mostly on simple synth sounds or drums. It's great for sound design.
Yes so is that also in Kombinat?

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Check out blepfx. Their Filter and Destuctor plugin do some very nice saturation

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aMUSEd wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 5:50 pm
Ah_Dziz wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 9:04 am There is an algorithmic distortion after the wavetable/ shaper that has a selectable distortion mode. It does sound great. I still use it all the time. Mostly on simple synth sounds or drums. It's great for sound design.
Yes so is that also in Kombinat?
I've never actually loaded kombinat onto a track, so I don't know.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.

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saturate until the signal is unrecognizable, put the saturator on the master
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martiu wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 5:25 pm saturate until the signal is unrecognizable, put the saturator on the master
why?

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_leras wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 9:51 pm
martiu wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 5:25 pm saturate until the signal is unrecognizable, put the saturator on the master
why?
:dog:

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OMFG :help: :lol:

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SATU-RAGE!

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buy saturator now

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I usually provide very mild parallel saturation to each individual instrument and/or voice. But not always. Like alluded to earlier, it's a seasoning, not a main ingredient.
I rarely if ever put saturation on the whole mix.
I have a really fast computer, some good mics, vintage musical instruments, and lots of fancy software. Just need some talent

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