The Plugin Manager now has an Option "Remove All".masterjoe wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 1:03 pm Maybe it's quickest if I delete the old DB and add everything from start? What do I have to delete where for that?
MuLab 10.1.25
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- KVRAF
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- 13854 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
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- KVRist
- 164 posts since 27 Sep, 2004
Well MuLab.exe does not even start as it currently is in an endless loop of trying to update the database (because Visco.vst3 crashes it seemingly). So I can't use any functions in Mulab app ATM. Would have to delete the database manually. But I don't know where it is located?
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- KVRAF
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- 13854 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
What do you mean by "crashing"?
Do you mean MuLab "hangs"?
"Crash" = sudden abortion. Not listed by Task Manager anymore.
"Hang" = freezes, no more interaction, but still listed in Task Manager.
Do you mean MuLab "hangs"?
"Crash" = sudden abortion. Not listed by Task Manager anymore.
"Hang" = freezes, no more interaction, but still listed in Task Manager.
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- KVRAF
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- 13854 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
I also don't understand why you would not be able to launch MuLab as MuLab does not scan plugins on startup.
The only thing it does related to plugins is to check if a previous plugin scan caused a crash and if yes it identifies the plugin and stores that nasty fact in the database to avoid such scan crash again.
The only thing it does related to plugins is to check if a previous plugin scan caused a crash and if yes it identifies the plugin and stores that nasty fact in the database to avoid such scan crash again.
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- KVRist
- 164 posts since 27 Sep, 2004
Hmm, it does in fact crash without the main UI appearing.
The first thing that happens when I start MuLab.exe is that MuLab wants to convert the plugin database. The main UI of MuLab is not visible at this point. I confirm the conversion dialog and then MuLab starts scanning the plugins automatically. I only see the scanner window but nothing else. This works for a while and when it reaches Visco.vst3 the scanner window hangs for a second and then disappears (=crash). When I try to launch MuLab.exe again the same procedure begins (conversion dialog - scanning - crash at Visco). I never reach the main UI. It always starts over scanning from the beginning and then crashes at Visco.vst3. This is what happens when I start MuLab.exe 10.1.1.
The plugin (in Studio One) behaved differently. There the main UI (of the plugin) appeared and then the question to convert the database came up on top of it. I confirmed the dialog and then it started scanning and after a while succeeded. Here even Visco.vst3 did no cause any troubles and everything finished fine.
Strange as it sounds - this is what happens here...
The first thing that happens when I start MuLab.exe is that MuLab wants to convert the plugin database. The main UI of MuLab is not visible at this point. I confirm the conversion dialog and then MuLab starts scanning the plugins automatically. I only see the scanner window but nothing else. This works for a while and when it reaches Visco.vst3 the scanner window hangs for a second and then disappears (=crash). When I try to launch MuLab.exe again the same procedure begins (conversion dialog - scanning - crash at Visco). I never reach the main UI. It always starts over scanning from the beginning and then crashes at Visco.vst3. This is what happens when I start MuLab.exe 10.1.1.
The plugin (in Studio One) behaved differently. There the main UI (of the plugin) appeared and then the question to convert the database came up on top of it. I confirmed the dialog and then it started scanning and after a while succeeded. Here even Visco.vst3 did no cause any troubles and everything finished fine.
Strange as it sounds - this is what happens here...
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- KVRAF
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- 13854 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
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- KVRAF
- 1925 posts since 29 Mar, 2013
I too had this kind of problem, havent noticed which file is causing it yet, will try again but it doesnt get to the ui, it just disappears. Restarting just goes through the same procedure of scanning some plugins then disappearing.
Beauty is only skin deep,
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
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- KVRAF
- 1925 posts since 29 Mar, 2013
Just tried again 3 times and its falling over Full Buckets Sixtraq. I will remove it and see if it helps.
Beauty is only skin deep,
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
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- KVRAF
- 1925 posts since 29 Mar, 2013
Ok, once I removed my Full Buckets folder, not just sixtraq, and also Ujam Fin-Micro.dll it managed to successfully complete the scan. Next I will re introduce those plugins and see if anything happens.
Beauty is only skin deep,
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
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- KVRAF
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- 13854 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
masterjoe wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 5:11 pm The first thing that happens when I start MuLab.exe is that MuLab wants to convert the plugin database. This works for a while and when it reaches Visco.vst3 the scanner window hangs for a second and then disappears (=crash). When I try to launch MuLab.exe again the same procedure begins (conversion dialog - scanning - crash at Visco). I never reach the main UI.
Found the cause.bibz1st wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:22 pm I too had this kind of problem, havent noticed which file is causing it yet, will try again but it doesnt get to the ui, it just disappears. Restarting just goes through the same procedure of scanning some plugins then disappearing.
Will be fixed in the next update.
Thanks for reporting this!
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- KVRist
- 164 posts since 27 Sep, 2004
WonderfulMuTools wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 7:31 pmmasterjoe wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 5:11 pm The first thing that happens when I start MuLab.exe is that MuLab wants to convert the plugin database. This works for a while and when it reaches Visco.vst3 the scanner window hangs for a second and then disappears (=crash). When I try to launch MuLab.exe again the same procedure begins (conversion dialog - scanning - crash at Visco). I never reach the main UI.Found the cause.bibz1st wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:22 pm I too had this kind of problem, havent noticed which file is causing it yet, will try again but it doesnt get to the ui, it just disappears. Restarting just goes through the same procedure of scanning some plugins then disappearing.
Will be fixed in the next update.
Thanks for reporting this!
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- KVRist
- 164 posts since 27 Sep, 2004
For me there are two things that I would like to see in 10.1 regarding the plugin manager:
(1) Only use ONE plugin database for both MuLab app and plugin, they shall share it.
(2) The favorite plugin folders shall always be visible and editable in a separarate, dedictated text list in the main UI of the plugin manager (the current menu for switching between them is rather clumsy). There you can add, remove and scan them. You should be able to scan them all at once (batch) with the click of a button. This saves time!
(1) Only use ONE plugin database for both MuLab app and plugin, they shall share it.
(2) The favorite plugin folders shall always be visible and editable in a separarate, dedictated text list in the main UI of the plugin manager (the current menu for switching between them is rather clumsy). There you can add, remove and scan them. You should be able to scan them all at once (batch) with the click of a button. This saves time!
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- KVRAF
- 3139 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
MuLab's updater not picking up the new beta?
Btw, no plurals for these:
Remove Unrecognizeds
Remove Unfounds
Uhbik, not showing all plugins, only one displayed.
If a category is empty, ie no CLAP plugins, or CLAP Synths but no effects then do not show that category. Great that these are there but it means clickign on empties just to see if there is anything there.
Great job though
Btw, no plurals for these:
Remove Unrecognizeds
Remove Unfounds
Uhbik, not showing all plugins, only one displayed.
If a category is empty, ie no CLAP plugins, or CLAP Synths but no effects then do not show that category. Great that these are there but it means clickign on empties just to see if there is anything there.
Great job though
Last edited by sl23 on Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- 3139 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
Wouldn't it be better if all the databases, colour settings, mux patches, etc, were central?masterjoe wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:29 am For me there are two things that I would like to see in 10.1 regarding the plugin manager:
(1) Only use ONE plugin database for both MuLab app and plugin, they shall share it.
(2) The favorite plugin folders shall always be visible and editable in a separarate, dedictated text list in the main UI of the plugin manager (the current menu for switching between them is rather clumsy). There you can add, remove and scan them. You should be able to scan them all at once (batch) with the click of a button. This saves time!