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BobDog wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:59 pm
I know you don't want it to be different but some others may.
I didn't say I don't want it to be different. I described what it is currently useful for.

It would certainly be more flexible if they added a root note option. So that when the global key/scale went from C Major to G Major, it transposed and not just constrained.

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muzicxs wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:09 pm
The Note Transpose device's Semitone Shift parameter is swapped out for a Step Shift parameter when Use Global Key is enabled.
Above is from the release notes. You should be able to use the Note Transpose device with "Use Global Key" enabled to get what you want.
Actually, that does the opposite of what you are thinking it does. It shifts by scale degrees, which makes it impossible to do something like shift C major white keys onto G major as white keys.

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muzicxs wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:06 pm
pdxindy wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:30 pm
muzicxs wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:25 pm The harmony device was utterly useless for the exact same reason, which they also fixed with Bitwig 6.
Did they fix the Harmony device in V6? I haven't even thought about checking it.
They did not, I confused it with the multi-note device.
Ahh.. too bad

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tumface wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:13 pm ...
Can you modify the author of your first quote? It's pxindy you're quoting, not me.

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tumface wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:14 pm Actually, that does the opposite of what you are thinking it does. It shifts by scale degrees, which makes it impossible to do something like shift C major white keys onto G major as white keys.
I'll check when I have access to my computer in a week or so.

A bunch of devices now work with global scale.
Six note FX devices have an option to Use Global Key (by clicking the same sharp–flat button in their device header), allowing the current global key to affect note transposition:
  • The Arpeggiator device's per-step Transposition parameters will switch from semitones to scale degrees when Use Global Key is enabled.
  • The Echo device's Feedback Transpose parameter will switch from semitones to scale degrees when Use Global Key is enabled.
  • The Multi-note device's Pitch Offset parameters will switch from semitones to scale degrees when Use Global Key is enabled. (The Learn Chord function is also disabled in this mode.)
  • The Note Transpose device's Semitone Shift parameter is swapped out for a Step Shift parameter when Use Global Key is enabled.
If the Randomize device's Pitch Randomize function is enabled in the Quanitized mode (to land on exact semitone steps), enabling the Use Global Key will randomize by the set number of scale degrees.
  • The new Key Filter+ device includes the 23 global scales. The device has Local Key and Local Mode/Scale parameters, or it will follow the project when Use Global Key is enabled.

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muzicxs wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:15 pm
tumface wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:13 pm ...
Can you modify the author of your first quote? It's pxindy you're quoting, not me.
Thanks, sorry. I have no idea how that happened. I clicked the quote button in the thread and I must have pasted over it or something.

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muzicxs wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:19 pm I'll check when I have access to my computer in a week or so.
I already tried :P

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tumface wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:13 pm I said you liked the way Bitwig's global scale system lets you continue playing on the keyboard the same way as before
Which is a manipulative interpretation. I neither made such a comment, nor do I agree with what you say I wrote.

Anyway, you're kinda rude and belligerent. I'm putting you on ignore.

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pdxindy wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:21 pm
tumface wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:13 pm I said you liked the way Bitwig's global scale system lets you continue playing on the keyboard the same way as before
Which is a manipulative interpretation. I neither made such a comment, nor do I agree with what you say I wrote.

Anyway, you're kinda rude and belligerent. I'm putting you on ignore.
Dog, there's a direct quote from you in my post showing what you said. You were replying to me saying you preferred the behavior that Bitwig has instead of the one I was proposing. There is no other interpretation. I haven't been rude or belligerent. I didn't initiate the reply chain with you. But I guess I'll be glad to not have to interact with you again, if that's how you want it.

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muzicxs wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:06 pm
pdxindy wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:30 pm
muzicxs wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:25 pm The harmony device was utterly useless for the exact same reason, which they also fixed with Bitwig 6.
Did they fix the Harmony device in V6? I haven't even thought about checking it.
They did not…
Yeah, this makes me sad. Harmonize would be amazing if they fixed the defect.

I'm extra sad because my defect report identified both the incorrect line of code and the fix… and I sent it 11 months ago. A working Harmonize was the thing I was most looking forward to in Bitwig 6.

I've since sent a few ideas about how to integrate the Key Signature stuff, to justify replacing Harmonize with a shiny new Harmonize+.

In the meantime, you can use a workaround to make Harmonize work as designed: Transpose the harmony down to C before sending it into Harmonize. The workaround is awkward, and it's a shame it's necessary, but it does make Harmonize into quite a wonderful creative device.

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Can you nudge/edit items in Bitwig Studio 6 at sample-level accuracy?

For example:

Can you shorten an item by one sample?

Can you nudge an item by one sample?

Can you show playhead’s position in samples instead of minutes:seconds:milliseconds?

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limitlesssss wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:32 pm Can you nudge/edit items in Bitwig Studio 6 at sample-level accuracy?

For example:

Can you shorten an item by one sample?

Can you nudge an item by one sample?

Can you show playhead’s position in samples instead of minutes:seconds:milliseconds?
Samples? May I ask what you need all this precision for?

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limitlesssss wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:32 pm Can you nudge/edit items in Bitwig Studio 6 at sample-level accuracy?
Yes. Bitwig is subsample-accurate.

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limitlesssss wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:32 pm Can you shorten an item by one sample?

Can you nudge an item by one sample?
Yes, but there's no command to do these, and Bitwig always shows an interpolated waveform without showing the sample points, so it's not easy. Many people have requested better waveform display features and options, but they haven't done it.

limitlesssss wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:32 pm Can you show playhead’s position in samples instead of minutes:seconds:milliseconds?
No.

stamp wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:00 am Samples? May I ask what you need all this precision for?
Why do you need to know what they need it for? This is a feature other DAWs have, and there's no need to play gatekeeper. (Sorry if I'm misunderstanding why you're asking.)
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stamp wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:00 am
limitlesssss wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:32 pm Can you nudge/edit items in Bitwig Studio 6 at sample-level accuracy?

For example:

Can you shorten an item by one sample?

Can you nudge an item by one sample?

Can you show playhead’s position in samples instead of minutes:seconds:milliseconds?
Samples? May I ask what you need all this precision for?
I'll try to find a few examples I made in the past and post them here to explain why. Thank you.

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tumface wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:19 am
Yes. Bitwig is subsample-accurate.

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Yes, but there's no command to do these, and Bitwig always shows an interpolated waveform without showing the sample points, so it's not easy. Many people have requested better waveform display features and options, but they haven't done it.
limitlesssss wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:32 pm Can you show playhead’s position in samples instead of minutes:seconds:milliseconds?
No.
stamp wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:00 am Samples? May I ask what you need all this precision for?
Why do you need to know what they need it for? This is a feature other DAWs have, and there's no need to play gatekeeper. (Sorry if I'm misunderstanding why you're asking.)
Thank you tumface for the answers. I appreciate it.

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