Are you migrating?

[legendCNCD]

If MS invents some killer crap for Win 12, I can move to apple. It does not matter what runs behind Ableton, as long as it runs good, even though I really dislike finder

[starflakeprj]

I guess I have (temporarily at least) migrated to Mac. Linux is not an option with the amount of plugins and DAWs I'm using. The reason for migrating to Mac was that I am too lazy to re-assemble my Windows computer (after buying new components three years ago), so after two years of not using a computer at all (except my work computer), I decided to buy a Mac Mini M4 Pro in November last year.

Once I'm not lazy anymore (who know when?), I will most likely switch back to Windows 11, but keep my Mac Mini connected to my living room TV.

I use mostly Hardware and a few of the plugins i own so the Migration to Linux is not a huge deal for me
Happy that i found Zorin that does everything i want so far and works with the newest Amd Gpu right after install.

I was also thinking about Migrating to Mac but i am used to PC Hardware and I prefer to Build my PC's to get as much power as i can get for less money so i ended up upgrading my PC and Today i Installed Linux.

I have now set it up the way i want it with U-he Zebra HZ, Diva and Repro And Tal J-8 and Uno LX + the Juno Chorus plugin and all my Hardware synths are also set up so they are ready to go just like my vst's

I wish more developers would jump over to linux too Instead of only Supporting WindBlows or Mac.

I would definitely like to see what I can pull together with a Linux host, but maybe not for music in my case. I know that, for instance, Blender renders a lot faster in Linux than in Windows. But this is a project for another day, month, year

[NWSM]

If i search for "Linux" i am very happy to see the pressure for native Linux support for Plugins...i appreciate it. Keep going.

[D-Fusion]

If i search for "Linux" i am very happy to see the pressure for native Linux support for Plugins...i appreciate it. Keep going.

I don't understand why the bigger companies don't do it when the small companies can do it and they even add a third plugin format like Clap for those that have a Daw that supports it

Some people like to point out that there are more Mac and windows users out there so they get more profit by only supporting those 2 Platforms only.

5% is still a big number and there is still a lot of extra money to be made even if it is only 3% of the Linux users that are musicians

I also wonder how many Musicians there is on the Mac and PC Platform too since everyone is not interested in making music and use their Os for simple daily tasks only and to play Solitaire

[Vortifex]

I have no reason to move to Linux. I use Windows 11 and everything works fine. I've used Linux on laptops and had nothing but problems with them.

[NWSM]

If i search for "Linux" i am very happy to see the pressure for native Linux support for Plugins...i appreciate it. Keep going.

I don't understand why the bigger companies don't do it when the small companies can do it and they even add a third plugin format like Clap for those that have a Daw that supports it

Exactly i have no, well maybe, f*king idea
i mean
- the market is there
- the market is not large
- porting seems not THAT problem (related to the original code)
- support different distros could be overwhelming

The only thing i could imagin is that some code can not be ported with ease.
The other thing is the Graphics, i think in some cases they need to rebuild the GUI.

Okay i will ask a Coder who actually don't want porting his own plugin.
He said: "The binaries are full of Windows specific API calls"

Well for Games this Guy is talking:


2005 a guy wrote about porting:
" Linux, unlike Windows, has no gui stuff inbuilt on the kernel. You will need to pick up some API as gtk or qt and start coding. GTK has an extension for python"

This Thread could be helpful i didn't read all:
viewtopic.php?p=9123510&hilit=porting+linux#p9123510

[D-Fusion]

If i search for "Linux" i am very happy to see the pressure for native Linux support for Plugins...i appreciate it. Keep going.

I don't understand why the bigger companies don't do it when the small companies can do it and they even add a third plugin format like Clap for those that have a Daw that supports it

Exactly i have no, well maybe, f*king idea
i mean
- the market is there
- the market is not large
- porting seems not THAT problem (related to the original code)
- support different distros could be overwhelming

The only thing i could imagin is that some code can not be ported with ease.
The other thing is the Graphics, i think in some cases they need to rebuild the GUI.

Okay i will ask a Coder who actually don't want porting his own plugin.
He said: "The binaries are full of Windows specific API calls"

Well for Games this Guy is talking:


2005 a guy wrote about porting:
" Linux, unlike Windows, has no gui stuff inbuilt on the kernel. You will need to pick up some API as gtk or qt and start coding. GTK has an extension for python"

This Thread could be helpful i didn't read all:
viewtopic.php?p=9123510&hilit=porting+linux#p9123510

Didn't know about that Thread. Interesting read there so thank you for that
I see that Audiothing is very happy with their decision to support Linux

[tapper mike]

Because of Linux requiring developers to work with open source code your plugin or daw is now free for anyone to swipe up.

Developers put a great deal of time, effort and, money into bringing a product to market. All hoping for ROI. If the ROI isn't met they can't fulfill their obligations to investors and employees. No hacker cares about that, they just want free and spread the free around even if a company gets buried in the process.

The only freeware I still use is Irfan View and Libre Office.
Neither have changed much since 1998 although Libre keeps up with security updates which Open Office didn't.
Windows Office is better. It's better than google docs it's better than Libre Office. It's designed smarter. I simply stick to Libre Office because I rarely use it and I know it pretty well from using it all these years.

Linux has nothing to offer me as a consumer and little if nothing to offer developers hoping to get an ROI.

[audiojunkie]

I have no reason to move to Linux. I use Windows 11 and everything works fine. I've used Linux on laptops and had nothing but problems with them.

You were using the wrong laptops. Just like Windows requires Windows supported hardware, if the hardware you are using is not 100% Linux compatible, you will have problems. It's simple math. Use 100% linux supported hardware, and you will have LESS problems than you would with Windows. Furthermore, you wouldn't have to worry about drivers and installations ever again--unlike Windows. <--EDIT: I added a smilie, because I didn't want to come off as being unfriendly.

[audiojunkie]

Because of Linux requiring developers to work with open source code your plugin or daw is now free for anyone to swipe up.

Developers put a great deal of time, effort and, money into bringing a product to market. All hoping for ROI. If the ROI isn't met they can't fulfill their obligations to investors and employees. No hacker cares about that, they just want free and spread the free around even if a company gets buried in the process.

The only freeware I still use is Irfan View and Libre Office.
Neither have changed much since 1998 although Libre keeps up with security updates which Open Office didn't.
Windows Office is better. It's better than google docs it's better than Libre Office. It's designed smarter. I simply stick to Libre Office because I rarely use it and I know it pretty well from using it all these years.

Linux has nothing to offer me as a consumer and little if nothing to offer developers hoping to get an ROI.

There is a misconception here that I want to (politely) correct:

Linux is open source. However, developers are fully free to write closed source, proprietary, commercial applications, and they are free to add copy protection to the software as well. U-he, TAL-Software, AudioThing, etc., etc., etc all sell their software (without source code), and all use the same copy protection that is used with Windows and MacOS.

EDIT: I also want to add, that developers that support linux are also getting a ROI. I (and many others) own and use most of U-he's products. Proudly paid for by a native Linux user.

[Amon1973]

I'm getting off the Windows bus after building and configuring my Win PCs for over 25 years. It's no place for me where that OS is going.
My PC is now multi-booting Win 10, Win 11 and Linux. I plan on getting rid of W11 in the next couple months, keep Win 10 (perhaps with a new LTSC license) for the Win-only software and games I still use, and fully migrate to Linux in a 2-3 years time-frame for all general purpose and gaming stuff.

Since I can't go Linux for DAW work, I got a Mac Studio in 2022 specifically for that, despite not being too fond of Apple and macOS. But at aleast I can disable all updates / notifications, use the computer without account linking and disable ad/tracking stuff... it served me well so far (and silently, using 1/8th of the space).

[kritikon]

I have no reason to move to Linux. I use Windows 11 and everything works fine. I've used Linux on laptops and had nothing but problems with them.

You were using the wrong laptops. Just like Windows requires Windows supported hardware, if the hardware you are using is not 100% Linux compatible, you will have problems. It's simple math. Use 100% linux supported hardware, and you will have LESS problems than you would with Windows. Furthermore, you wouldn't have to worry about drivers and installations ever again--unlike Windows. <--EDIT: I added a smilie, because I didn't want to come off as being unfriendly.

I didn't know Linux use was so picky. True that Windows got picky about old hardware, but that's a bit of an obfuscation - I don't think I've seen ANY new hardware in any shop anywhere that can't use Win11. Is there such a new pc/laptop that exists? (Obvs not including Mac). If Linux can't use any old new pc/laptop then THAT is a big issue for Linux. Seriously, I don't think I could find it possible to go into a store and buy any kind of new pc/laptop that won't be able to use Win11...in fact they will all have it installed. Just saying....

[audiojunkie]

I have no reason to move to Linux. I use Windows 11 and everything works fine. I've used Linux on laptops and had nothing but problems with them.

You were using the wrong laptops. Just like Windows requires Windows supported hardware, if the hardware you are using is not 100% Linux compatible, you will have problems. It's simple math. Use 100% linux supported hardware, and you will have LESS problems than you would with Windows. Furthermore, you wouldn't have to worry about drivers and installations ever again--unlike Windows. <--EDIT: I added a smilie, because I didn't want to come off as being unfriendly.

I didn't know Linux use was so picky. True that Windows got picky about old hardware, but that's a bit of an obfuscation - I don't think I've seen ANY new hardware in any shop anywhere that can't use Win11. Is there such a new pc/laptop that exists? (Obvs not including Mac). If Linux can't use any old new pc/laptop then THAT is a big issue for Linux. Seriously, I don't think I could find it possible to go into a store and buy any kind of new pc/laptop that won't be able to use Win11...in fact they will all have it installed. Just saying....

Yes, Linux is a bit more picky with hardware. Remember, Windows still dominates everything, so hardware is designed with Windows in mind, not Linux. Linux drivers are often an afterthought or developed by the community. This is getting better, but is still something that must be considered when using Linux. With Linux, a good way to test things is through running a "live" distro. A live distro is a distro that can be run from a flash drive or a CD drive. They are usually loaded up entirely in RAM and don't need to be installed onto a hard drive. With these distros, one can easily load up the live distro and see if there are any problems with the existing hardware.

Because Linux does so well with built-in driver support, people in general never really worry about compatibility problems. They grab any old laptop and install Linux on it--and it usually works! That's the beauty of Linux! But, almost invariably, when someone starts complaining about a bad experience, it usually boils down to a few things: hardware incompatibility, limited Linux knowledge, or a bug. While bugs can be found anywhere--even in Windows 11, it is often a distro choice that makes bugs a problem. For example, if you use Debian, you are likely to have a fairly bug-free experience, because of all of the testing involved in creating a "stable" distro. Arch, on the other hand, it is expected and normal to have to make frequent manual interventions and fixes, which is expected when using bleeding edge software. If you don't have adequate linux knowledge, you are going to have nothing but problems.

Personally, I like a good middle ground: Fedora. Fedora is a "leading" edge distro, rather than a "bleeding" edge distro. What that means, is that the software is updated frequently (with distro upgrades every 6 months), and usually has all of the modern upgrades and features, but isn't a rolling release like Arch is. Fedora gets bug fixes and kernel upgrades as soon as they come out, but you don't have to worry about manual interventions........but I digress.

The point is, yes, it is important to have compatible hardware, and one should check all the components before assuming any old hardware will be problem free. You wouldn't buy an Mac to run Windows on--likewise, you need to be sure to have compatible hardware when using Linux. While most will work, some will work better than others. If you want a problem free, hassle free experience with Linux, avoid bleeding edge distros, use compatible hardware, and learn about Linux.

[pc999]

I use Linux and I am quite happy with it.

It is a better OS overall, fast, stable, low latency, dont steal your data or present you with ADs.

But I am running a somewhat minimalist setup based on Bitwig and few VST/CLAP plugins. Mostly I worry is if the MIDI hardware is compatible, but lately most of them seems to be at least partially compatible.

[D-Fusion]

I use Linux and I am quite happy with it.

It is a better OS overall, fast, stable, low latency, dont steal your data or present you with ADs.

But I am running a somewhat minimalist setup based on Bitwig and few VST/CLAP plugins. Mostly I worry is if the MIDI hardware is compatible, but lately most of them seems to be at least partially compatible.

All of the Distro's i tried worked right out of the box with all my Hardware except for My Roland UM-One Usb Midi cable and the new Amd 9060XT card.

Zorin OS 18 which is the one i ended up with uses the latest Kernel and Mesa so everything worked right out of the box there with my newest Hardware with no need for finding new drivers
Linux works a little different than windows when it comes to installing certain Programs but i had no problem installing any of them and none of them had any need for using the Terminal to do it. (Edit: I had to use the Terminal for the native U-he plugins when i think of it but it was still easy to do)
I only had to got to the plugin folder where the install.sh was and right click on a empty space in that window and choose open in terminal and type in bash install.sh and hit y to confirm the install.

The only thing i did wrong the first time was that i installed the Flapak version of Bitwig so my vst 3 plugins didn't show up because they don't like the sandboxing in the Flatpak version so when i reinstalled Bitwig with the Ubuntu/Deb version instead i was good to go

I installed the Native Linux versions of U-he, Odin 2, Surge XT, Vital, and the free and bought Tal plugins and Octasine which gives me plenty of variation in sound and options
I also have hardware Synths and Groove boxes with Workstation sounds since i run a hybrid setup so i have all the sounds i want and more and they all have their own Midi/Audio tracks that are ready to go when Bitwig starts up