Omnisphere 3

[noiseboyuk]

Why would my user created patches be included in the factory presets? It's not a factory preset anymore

I would much rather search for my user created patches in my user library where it logically belongs

For many a sound is just a sound, and don't care about if the sound belongs in the User area or Factory area. Most musicians I worked with wouldn't even know the difference.

Awesome so if you don't care and don't know the difference when do you care where it's stored?

Wouldn't it be better to have a collection of modified presets that you yourself have personalized to suit your personal tastes all in one place?

The alternative is to store them along side thousands of factory presets in various directories you didn't modify and try to find them. So a month later you are trying to remember which factory library that cool pad sound you made from a modified preset was stored in and what it was called. Did you store it in Ambient Dreams or was it in SFX Organic? Oh wait it was in Analog Vibes, no that's not it it was in Retro Vibes

How would that be better? When you could just go to your user pool

How is that better?

Again, this is thinking about it all wrong.

I'm with Dr Gonzo. I don't care where it is stored. But I really DO care what the tags are, because I know I won't find it again afterwards otherwise. Happily, if it's a modified factory patch, the tags will default to being the exact same - EVEN IF IT IS IN THE USER AREA.

This is the problem. You can't search Analog Vibes + the user directory at the same time. Pick one or the other. Actually you can't even do that - you have to pick your specific user library, you can't pick all the libraries in User.

The only option is the new ALL hellscape. You'll probably never find it again. In Omni 2 you'd have selected ALL, put in the right tags and the two patches would be right alongside one another.

[DrGonzo]

Awesome so if you don't care and don't know the difference when do you care where it's stored?

Wouldn't it be better to have a collection of modified presets that you yourself have personalized to suit your personal tastes all in one place?

I'm not arguing with you or saying what is better. I think it would be logical & better for humanity if people on the roads would use the effing indicators. But that's not happening. I'm just saying that different people have different ways of working. Especially musicians who don't care about folders, user areas, factory etc.

[IvyBirds]

Maybe I took a factory pad sound from the "Ambient Dreams" section. Maybe I changed the envelope to have a much sharper attack and swapped out the filter, then changed the reverb and added a compressor

it HAS to be possible to save an altered factory preset at same location !
Cause: maybe i just adjusted the Reverb slightly and nothing else, no ?

But you can do that if you want to. You just click save as. It will default to saving in Steam>>Omnisphere>>Settings Library>>Patches>>User

If you leave it this way it saves in the user section. You can open the "my categories" folder to save it in whatever category you created

It looks like this

Screenshot_20251022-114904.jpg

However if you want you can just click on the Factory tab instead of user which will save it in the factory library and if you click on that you will see all the categories. So if you want to save your modified preset in the Analog Vibes factory library just click that and it will be saved there

[IvyBirds]

Awesome so if you don't care and don't know the difference when do you care where it's stored?

Wouldn't it be better to have a collection of modified presets that you yourself have personalized to suit your personal tastes all in one place?

I'm not arguing with you or saying what is better. I think it would be logical & better for humanity if people on the roads would use the effing indicators. But that's not happening. I'm just saying that different people have different ways of working. Especially musicians who don't care about folders, user areas, factory etc.

Awesome then people can use the "save as" feature and save it wherever they want

[noiseboyuk]

However if you want you can just click on the Factory tab instead of user which will save it in the factory library and if you click on that you will see all the categories. So if you want to save your modified preset in the Analog Vibes factory library just click that and it will be saved there

I'll have to check to be 100% sure but I don't think that will work. All the factory patches are stored in .db files - there's no subfolders for the categories or .prt_omn single patches in there. Will do a test later though.

[IvyBirds]

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This is how thousands of Omnisphere users work. And that option has just been closed to all of us.

No it hasn't you can search by tags and attributes or even search for similar sounds

https://support.spectrasonics.net/manua ... ion-page04

[IvyBirds]

However if you want you can just click on the Factory tab instead of user which will save it in the factory library and if you click on that you will see all the categories. So if you want to save your modified preset in the Analog Vibes factory library just click that and it will be saved there

I'll have to check to be 100% sure but I don't think that will work. All the factory patches are stored in .db files - there's no subfolders for the categories or .prt_omn single patches in there. Will do a test later though.

It absolutely does work I just did it and by folder I am specifically talking about the image if the folder in the save as menu not some random folder on your hard drive

If it didn't work why would the factory folder even be listed on the save as dialog screen?

[noiseboyuk]

However if you want you can just click on the Factory tab instead of user which will save it in the factory library and if you click on that you will see all the categories. So if you want to save your modified preset in the Analog Vibes factory library just click that and it will be saved there

I'll have to check to be 100% sure but I don't think that will work. All the factory patches are stored in .db files - there's no subfolders for the categories or .prt_omn single patches in there. Will do a test later though.

It absolutely does work I just did it and by folder I am specifically talking about the image if the folder in the save as menu not some random folder on your hard drive

If it didn't work why would the factory folder even be listed on the save as dialog screen?

Eh? I'm talking about saving it in the Factory folder that your image shows. Take a look in there.

[noiseboyuk]

It absolutely does work I just did it and by folder I am specifically talking about the image if the folder in the save as menu not some random folder on your hard drive

If it didn't work why would the factory folder even be listed on the save as dialog screen?

Just did a test. If you try and save anywhere but the user folder, you get this:

Screenshot 2025-10-22 182004.png

[IvyBirds]

It absolutely does work I just did it and by folder I am specifically talking about the image if the folder in the save as menu not some random folder on your hard drive

If it didn't work why would the factory folder even be listed on the save as dialog screen?

Just did a test. If you try and save anywhere but the user folder, you get this:


Screenshot 2025-10-22 182004.png

Weird I don't, but like I said I don't see why you would want to do that anyway

[jbraner]

Maybe I took a factory pad sound from the "Ambient Dreams" section. Maybe I changed the envelope to have a much sharper attack and swapped out the filter, then changed the reverb and added a compressor

it HAS to be possible to save an altered factory preset at same location !
Cause: maybe i just adjusted the Reverb slightly and nothing else, no ?

But you can do that if you want to. You just click save as. It will default to saving in Steam>>Omnisphere>>Settings Library>>Patches>>User

If you leave it this way it saves in the user section. You can open the "my categories" folder to save it in whatever category you created

It looks like this

Screenshot_20251022-114904.jpg

However if you want you can just click on the Factory tab instead of user which will save it in the factory library and if you click on that you will see all the categories. So if you want to save your modified preset in the Analog Vibes factory library just click that and it will be saved there

If you try to save it to the Factory folder it says this.


This is in Windows - maybe your Mac is different.

[jbraner]

And yes, I would want all my own sounds to be within the same searchable pool.

This.
It doesn't matter if the user patches live in the same folder as the factory ones - but some of us would like to "see them" together.
This could also pertain to the mutations.

I agree, if your "edited" patch is completely different than the original - then it doesn't matter. But if you make a few different, similar *versions* called:
patchname (the factory one)
patchname-2
patchname-3
Then you'd like to see them all together. It doesn't matter where they live - but the browser is a query of certain presets.

The only other way around this (which I've done in other plugins) is to save the (unedited) original in the user folder - before you make your "variations".

EDIT - I still think that "whatever category/folder" + user is something that might make everybody happy

[IvyBirds]

And yes, I would want all my own sounds to be within the same searchable pool.

This.
It doesn't matter if the user patches live in the same folder as the factory ones - but some of us would like to "see them" together.
This could also pertain to the mutations.

I agree, if your "edited" patch is completely different than the original - then it doesn't matter. But if you make a few different, similar *versions* called:
patchname (the factory one)
patchname-2
patchname-3
Then you'd like to see them all together. It doesn't matter where they live - but the browser is a query of certain presets.

The only other way around this (which I've done in other plugins) is to save the (unedited) original in the user folder - before you make your "variations".

EDIT - I still think that "whatever category/folder" + user is something that might make everybody happy

This is a great case for the "Attributes" tag

https://support.spectrasonics.net/manua ... ags-page01

And the assignments tag
https://support.spectrasonics.net/manua ... ags-page01

You would create an attribute called "User Tweaked Presets" or whatever

Then under that select and assignment called "Patchname"

Like you said it doesn't matter where they are stored in your example

So under the "patchname" attribute you can tag as many variations of that factory preset as you want and of course call them whatever you want

The upside to this is you don't clog up the factory library with tons of variations of the same patch which can add up over time and you are not limited to using a common naming scheme for the patch itself even if it's that bass sound. Why? Because maybe you then want to tweak that bass sound into something else and that bass sound shouldn't be in the Ambient Dreams factory library

So instead of having to resort to
patchname (the factory one)
patchname-2
patchname-3
All the way to
patchname-754

You can call them whatever you want with more useful names and even tag your deeper derivates and mutations

So if you turn that ambient pad into a bass sound you can search for that ambient pad and all it's derivatives no matter what they are or where they are stored

The alternative is every increasing lists of patch names in your factory folders that just keep on getting larger and larger by the hundreds and then the thousands

[muzicxs]

Has anyone managed to pay with CC? Support acknowledged there were payment issues, but other than that they're not able to help in any way. Their recommendation: use PayPal. Absolutely mind boggling...

[aMUSEd]

Has anyone managed to pay with CC? Support acknowledged there were payment issues, but other than that they're not able to help in any way. Their recommendation: use PayPal. Absolutely mind boggling...

Yes I had no problem once I had authorised payments from Spectrasonics in my banking app