What update?
Presonus : "So we are targeting 3-4 "major" feature releases every year..."
- KVRian
- 932 posts since 26 Nov, 2010
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- KVRist
- 96 posts since 15 Nov, 2005 from Hamburg, Germany
Definitely! Cubase 14 introduced more "major" features than all the last S1 7.x "major feature drops" combined.Crossinger wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 9:44 am Although this cannot be said about all recent updates, Cubase 14 was feature-rich and everything was very well implemented.
- KVRAF
- 1770 posts since 1 Mar, 2010 from Paris
To each their own really. I tried Cubase 14 for a couple of weeks and felt overwhelmed by the possibilities. S1, on the other hand, has stayed pretty streamlined over the years and that's what I like about it. It may not have as many "features" as other major DAWs but it caters to all my needs.stanft wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 2:19 pmDefinitely! Cubase 14 introduced more "major" features than all the last S1 7.x "major feature drops" combined.Crossinger wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 9:44 am Although this cannot be said about all recent updates, Cubase 14 was feature-rich and everything was very well implemented.
Regardless of the company, you should never invest your money on promises. More often than not, you'll be disappointed. Buy something because you like what it is, not because of what it could become.
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- KVRian
- 696 posts since 21 Nov, 2000 from somewhere over the rainbow
Agreed! But normally, no one buys software with a fixed idea of future developments. Desires more often arise from learning about new features offered by competitors. And then comes the “I'd like that feature too” moment, and dissatisfaction grows.Ghostwave wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 2:42 pm Regardless of the company, you should never invest your money on promises. More often than not, you'll be disappointed. Buy something because you like what it is, not because of what it could become.
- KVRAF
- 2748 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
And still Cubase can't properly layer multilple instruments.stanft wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 2:19 pmDefinitely! Cubase 14 introduced more "major" features than all the last S1 7.x "major feature drops" combined.Crossinger wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 9:44 am Although this cannot be said about all recent updates, Cubase 14 was feature-rich and everything was very well implemented.
Mac Mini M4 Pro | 14 Cores (10P/4E) | 48GB RAM | Studio One | Reason | Bitwig Studio | Logic Pro | FL Studio | Cubase Pro | Waveform | Reaper | Renoise | ~1000 VSTs/AUs | ~350 REs
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- KVRian
- 1342 posts since 8 May, 2018 from Sweden
...and then you switch to a different DAW and realize it's missing some other feature you took for granted in your old DAW. And so the DAW-hopping cycle begins again.Crossinger wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:15 pmAgreed! But normally, no one buys software with a fixed idea of future developments. Desires more often arise from learning about new features offered by competitors. And then comes the “I'd like that feature too” moment, and dissatisfaction grows.Ghostwave wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 2:42 pm Regardless of the company, you should never invest your money on promises. More often than not, you'll be disappointed. Buy something because you like what it is, not because of what it could become.
Take a single oscillator, producing a drone. Send it to the wave shaper, altering the tone.
This can be a triangle, Sawtooth or a square. Modulate the pulse width, nobody will care
This can be a triangle, Sawtooth or a square. Modulate the pulse width, nobody will care
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- KVRian
- 696 posts since 21 Nov, 2000 from somewhere over the rainbow
Exactly! Unless you resist...AdvancedFollower wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 6:30 pm...and then you switch to a different DAW and realize it's missing some other feature you took for granted in your old DAW. And so the DAW-hopping cycle begins again.Crossinger wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:15 pmAgreed! But normally, no one buys software with a fixed idea of future developments. Desires more often arise from learning about new features offered by competitors. And then comes the “I'd like that feature too” moment, and dissatisfaction grows.Ghostwave wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 2:42 pm Regardless of the company, you should never invest your money on promises. More often than not, you'll be disappointed. Buy something because you like what it is, not because of what it could become.
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- KVRist
- 96 posts since 15 Nov, 2005 from Hamburg, Germany
But at least, it can record external instruments with a working delay compensationstarflakeprj wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:59 pm And still Cubase can't properly layer multilple instruments.
- KVRAF
- 2748 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
Didn't even know this was a problem in Studio One since I don't have any external instruments. Or, to put it this way, I don't record any external instruments, I do have two electric guitars, and one electric bass, but I really cannot play anywaystanft wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:52 pmBut at least, it can record external instruments with a working delay compensationstarflakeprj wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:59 pm And still Cubase can't properly layer multilple instruments.![]()
Mac Mini M4 Pro | 14 Cores (10P/4E) | 48GB RAM | Studio One | Reason | Bitwig Studio | Logic Pro | FL Studio | Cubase Pro | Waveform | Reaper | Renoise | ~1000 VSTs/AUs | ~350 REs
- KVRAF
- 1770 posts since 1 Mar, 2010 from Paris
I didn't know either. I regularly record my Korg Radias and Multi/Poly HW into S1 and never noticed anything.starflakeprj wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 8:08 pmDidn't even know this was a problem in Studio One since I don't have any external instruments. Or, to put it this way, I don't record any external instruments, I do have two electric guitars, and one electric bass, but I really cannot play anywaystanft wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:52 pmBut at least, it can record external instruments with a working delay compensationstarflakeprj wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:59 pm And still Cubase can't properly layer multilple instruments.![]()
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Since that comment bugged me, I just recorded a clip with my controller that output to the Radias and then inserted Ozone 5 (old, I know, but it's fine for my needs) with the highest latency I could get (155 ms!). I then bounced the part to audio, played them together and ... everything is in sync! Am I testing it wrong?
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- KVRist
- 96 posts since 15 Nov, 2005 from Hamburg, Germany
The problem is not the latency of some plugins but the latency of the audio interface and the hardware that is not compensated correctly if AUX busses are used:
https://studiooneforum.com/threads/dela ... ments.733/
It has already been confirmed by Presonus.
https://studiooneforum.com/threads/dela ... ments.733/
It has already been confirmed by Presonus.
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- KVRAF
- 2492 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
Yeah, I didn't realize how bad S1 was in this regard until I started doing a demo of Cubase 14. Major difference.stanft wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:52 pmBut at least, it can record external instruments with a working delay compensationstarflakeprj wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:59 pm And still Cubase can't properly layer multilple instruments.![]()
As for the complexity - I can see it "lurking" in Cubase 14 but, so far, to do the basics I need a DAW to do, it's no worse than S1.
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2492 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
There's a problem using multiple PipelineXT plugins in a row (ie if you want to chain hardware chains in a different order). Cubase 14 handles it easily and with less latency.stanft wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 10:12 pm The problem is not the latency of some plugins but the latency of the audio interface and the hardware that is not compensated correctly if AUX busses are used:
https://studiooneforum.com/threads/dela ... ments.733/
It has already been confirmed by Presonus.
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- KVRian
- 797 posts since 2 Nov, 2014
Tuner3 XXL
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andrei.tuduran andrei.tuduran https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=369504
- KVRian
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- 592 posts since 11 Nov, 2015