Omnisphere 3

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

sadly the GUI got worse tooo?

Omnisphere 2

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vs Omnisphere 3

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where are the instant LAyer sliders like Start, Timbre etc. then Reverse etc?

That seems like an improvement, no?

[DrGonzo]

People talk about how omnisphere should or should not have full sampler capabilities but it’s not all or none thing. It doesn’t need full zone mapping and all that. Why not just sfz loading, like equator? Wouldn’t add any new functions. But it already has multi-sample playback so why not import of sfz.

Yes. I can absolutely understand why Spectrasonics doesn't want to create an internal wave editor for multi-sampled instruments. But being able to import a premade package like sfz would solve it.

[billinder33]

Wouldnt it be awesome if Native Instruments created an Omnisphere-like platform for Kontakt Libraries, this is really what Kontakt should be. Or perhaps Native Instruments buy Spectrasonics and incorporate NKI. That could go badly wrong I realize, but still I dream

Native Instruments needs to stay far far away from Spectrasonics

Sure but I’d love to use my Kontakt libs in Omnisphere, can’t deny that

Yeah this would be awesome!!

[bermudagold]

People talk about how omnisphere should or should not have full sampler capabilities but it’s not all or none thing. It doesn’t need full zone mapping and all that. Why not just sfz loading, like equator? Wouldn’t add any new functions. But it already has multi-sample playback so why not import of sfz.

Yes. I can absolutely understand why Spectrasonics doesn't want to create an internal wave editor for multi-sampled instruments. But being able to import a premade package like sfz would solve it.

if u understand it, then explain it to us then ...they clearly already have implemented it...doesn't trillian have keyswitches, release sounds, and legato controls?...how can they claim to be all about musicians first and not sound designers, yet leave all that expressivity control inaccessible?

[billinder33]

How do you like its FX compared to those in Serum 2?

Extremely high quality and a massive amount of variety compared to Serum, but not so much of that fist-in-yer-face thing that Serum FX does. In Serum you can have a relatively weak osc, hit it with the distortion, OTT, let the EQ and Filter module rip, and throw Hyper at the end and it will scream like a madman.

If you want nasty aggression from Omni, best to do it from the oscs and not the FX. But it nasty that way. Real nasty.

[billinder33]

Yeah, putting a slop cover on your thing seems like a really bad idea. This is right from their website. I have no interest in this at all, now. Who's to know what other corners they've cut?

Well really it’s not THAT big an update, when you observe it objectively, how much further has Omnisphere evolved from v2.5 — Not a great deal and many of the user interface / experience issues, such as not being able to delete the mutations inside the UI, the browser issues, archaic 2010’s modulation system, disjointed mix of flat, starship panel and skeuomorphic interface design. More could’ve been done to push it forward and provide a more polished experience.

I say this as an Omnisphere and Keyscape owner of 10 years and I’m sure many here will disagree — and maybe I’m wrong — I’ve not used it, but it’s my impression. It’s still a wonderful instrument nonetheless, but compared to something like Serum 1 and 2 it feels like a lesser jump in performance. (Apples and oranges I know)

It's like they wanted to make it more modern, but were afraid of alienating the existing fan base so they split the difference. As a fan of modern synth UIs I wish they'd gone all in, but in practice it's not quite as bad as a looks in the pictures/videos. A little slicker than v2 Omni, even though it's 75% the same old paradigm.

[Neon Breath]

People winning about the use of an AI image for their instrument visualization.

Of course, these are soooo much better from the other competitors!

[JasonSpatola]

People winning about the use of an AI image for their instrument visualization.

Of course, these are soooo much better from the other competitors!

I mean, I like the synth and Eric Persing absolutely rules, but if people wanna call out the cringe when they see it, I can't fault them. Doesn't really bother me, but I understand why many have a problem with it.

[DrGonzo]

if u understand it, then explain it to us then ...they clearly already have implemented it...doesn't trillian have keyswitches, release sounds, and legato controls?...how can they claim to be all about musicians first and not sound designers, yet leave all that expressivity control inaccessible?

It's a balance between control and usability. Apple is maybe the most clear-cut example of this with MacOS. Just like Linux, MacOS is based on Unix and is insanely capable, yet it leaves lots of deep settings and things completely locked away. It creates a walled garden with a certain level of customisation - yet easy to use. You want control over everything - go Linux and dabble with the code itself.

It took reFX Nexus 20 years to fully open up it's synth engine, and yet that didn't hinder it to become one of the biggest plugins for pop and dance producers. What could you do with previous versions? Change filter, envelopes and effect settings. This is what 98.98% of people need.

As much as I want to have access to everything in Omnisphere, I am definitely in minority. Most people who use Omnisphere are not sound designers but musicians, and all decisions should therefore always be with playing musicians in mind as the first, second and third priority.

/Carl

[Neon Breath]

I wonder what hardware filters the new models are based on:
• Beefy LPF 2-pole
• Beefy LPF 4-pole
• Classic LPF 1-pole
• Classic LPF 2-pole
• Classic LPF 3-pole
• Classic LPF 4-pole
• Classic LPF 6-pole
• Classic LPF 8-pole
• French LPF 2-pole
• French LPF 4-pole
• Jupiter LPF 2-pole
• Jupiter LPF 4-pole
• OB LPF 2-pole
• OB LPF 4-pole
• Sauce LPF 2-pole
• Sauce LPF 4-pole
• Subtle LPF 1-pole
• Subtle LPF 2-pole
• Jupiter HPF 1-pole
• Jupiter HPF 2-pole
• Jupiter HPF 4-pole
• OB HPF 2-pole
• OB HPF 4-pole
• Sauce HPF 2-pole
• Sauce HPF 4-pole
• Beefy BPF 2-pole
• Beefy BPF 4-pole
• OB BPF 2-pole
• OB BPF 4-pole
• Sauce BPF 2-pole
• Sauce BPF 4-pole
• Allpass Filter
• Notch Filter
• State Variable OB
• State Variable Sauce

Jupiter is obvious, and OB, but not sure about the others.

From the Reference guide: https://support.spectrasonics.net/manua ... 1?q=french
Beefy = Moogy/Prophet type filter
Classic = Ladder-style filter
French: Enhanced UVI flter
Sauce: Enhanced Juicy-style filter
Subtle = Gentle lowpass filter

[Caine123]

sadly the GUI got worse tooo?

Omnisphere 2

o2.png

vs Omnisphere 3

o3.png

where are the instant LAyer sliders like Start, Timbre etc. then Reverse etc?

That seems like an improvement, no?

where is this an improvement, this part now takes up all the space with these big fields and you nee dto click WAVE (one more click involved) instead of having these few options instantly!

Omnisphere 3 with the ugly big taking fields.

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And Omnisphere 2 has these few options ASAP! not another click involved.

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this is a downgrade in my opinion and so much space used for these big fields.

[FarleyCZ]

People winning about the use of an AI image for their instrument visualization.

Of course, these are soooo much better from the other competitors!

Whelp, that Noire pic is a really nice 3D model. Somebody did that. By hand. Hence my point about the accessibility of 3D assets. There was no need for AI image. Literally zero.

I have the same feeling about this as I had when I saw the Coca Cola's AI christmas commercial. If we were talking about small one-man-band kind of developer selling plugins for 15 bucks a piece, I would totally understand it. But it's a 500 USD synthesizer, for god damn sake. A nice Blender pic would cost a small fraction of one sold copy.

Sorry, but when Aberrant DSP, a company consisting of 2 people, can do awesome sounding plugins with beautiful hand-drawn GUI and sell them for 30 bucks, there is no need for Spectrasonics to use AI. I'm sorry.

I really hope this was just some corporate buzzwody techno-optimism on Eric's part and that they make some nice looking photos or 3D models instead. Cause honestly, this is a little insulting to everyone trying (and failing) to compete with AI. If I noticed that picture sooner, I would not have bought the upgrade. And three of my friends decided to not do so after I showed them this picure. Eric, I know you read this forum. Please fix this.

[Morty-C-137]

People talk about how omnisphere should or should not have full sampler capabilities but it’s not all or none thing. It doesn’t need full zone mapping and all that. Why not just sfz loading, like equator? Wouldn’t add any new functions. But it already has multi-sample playback so why not import of sfz.

Yep, my thoughts exactly. Does not have to be something like Kontakt. But at least sfz import gives us multisample ability in our own hands vs being dependent on the factory library for that (and who really knows what is multi-sampled in there.. its not described afaik).

User facing sample import is just one sample and that's it. Good luck playing that across the keyboard and not even being able to set a loop, zero pojt crossing etc.

[jobinho]

People winning about the use of an AI image for their instrument visualization.

Of course, these are soooo much better from the other competitors!

Whelp, that Noire pic is a really nice 3D model. Somebody did that. By hand. Hence my point about the accessibility of 3D assets. There was no need for AI image. Literally zero.

I have the same feeling about this as I had when I saw the Coca Cola's AI christmas commercial. If we were talking about small one-man-band kind of developer selling plugins for 15 bucks a piece, I would totally understand it. But it's a 500 USD synthesizer, for god damn sake. A nice Blender pic would cost a small fraction of one sold copy.

Sorry, but when Aberrant DSP, a company consisting of 2 people, can do awesome sounding plugins with beautiful hand-drawn GUI and sell them for 30 bucks, there is no need for Spectrasonics to use AI. I'm sorry.

I really hope this was just some corporate buzzwody techno-optimism on Eric's part and that they make some nice looking photos or 3D models instead. Cause honestly, this is a little insulting to everyone trying (and failing) to compete with AI. If I noticed that picture sooner, I would not have bought the upgrade. And three of my friends decided to not do so after I showed them this picure. Eric, I know you read this forum. Please fix this.

Agree — Noire is miles ahead of the Omnisphere image. No comparison. Design’s a bit like IQ: if you can’t recognize good design, you probably don’t have the ability to see it. Spectrasonics could really use some better brains on that front.

[ononeandsome]

Hi Folks, Well now this IS an entertaining thread!!
I have a basic question about running Omnisphere 3.

I am running Logic on an iMac pro. 2.3ghz 18 core. Omni 3 system req's state 2.4ghz processor or faster.min.

I am fully aware of all the potential buffering etc options.

Is anyone here successfully running Omnisphere 3 on any similar powered machine?

Is it insanely more 'juicy' than Omni 2?

I would experiment - been using Omnisphere for years. V2 works well on my system - but can get juicy. And there is no sensibly simple way to keep V2 alongside V3.

Many thanks