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macmoffatt wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:50 am Update - fixed the Logic and Unify problem, trashed Synthmasterplayer3 from Application support along with all VST and AU, reinstalled using v3.4.4 (revision 16629) Reason still hangs.

Workaround for me: Use Synthmaster 3 or load the player3 in Unify
Could you possibly email me all the log files under:

Mac: /users/shared/synthmaster3/logs

and the crash logs at: library/logs/diagnosticreports

Thanks!
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kv331 wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 6:00 pm
Lbdunequest wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 5:21 pm When i try to verify presets metadata on the latest version synth crashes when in standalone. If im doing this in DAW it also crashes the DAW.
I will look into this, but just to let you know, this functionality is for sound designers.

Did you have all expansions installed ?
yes, also if i lets say i select pads, the browser shows others sounds like arp, sequences ect

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I'd really like to use Synthmaster, but everytime I just try using it seriously it simply falls apart.

In the past days a friend of mine was using 3.4.4.
MIDI learns aren't persisted in his REAPER 7.x projects (everytime the project is loaded MIDI learns assigned to parameters are simply lost) - Win 10x64.
And, if trying to choose the "Add host parameter" right click menu to allow automating a parameter without MIDI learn - for example, IIRC, some kind of slope, REAPER crashes consistently to desktop.

Am I simply unlucky?

Thanks,
Mario

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macmoffatt wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:50 am Update - fixed the Logic and Unify problem, trashed Synthmasterplayer3 from Application support along with all VST and AU, reinstalled using v3.4.4 (revision 16629) Reason still hangs.

Workaround for me: Use Synthmaster 3 or load the player3 in Unify
Can you please delete

/users/shared/synthmaster3/synthmasterplayersamples.wfdb

and try again?
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I had to wipe my Windows 10 PC last week in order to install Windows 11 (upgrade in place would not run) so I'm in the process of reinstalling all of my software. In my User Area on the synthmaster.com website, it shows I own SynthMaster 2, SynthMaster 2 Player, and SynthMaster 3.

From reading this thread over the last few months, my understanding is that SynthMaster 3 will automatically detect and import any SynthMaster 2 presets if SynthMaster 2 is installed on the same machine. Is that correct?

Does SynthMaster 3 include all of the factory presets from SynthMaster 2, or would I need to install SynthMaster 2 alongside SynthMaster 3?

Finally, does SynthMaster 2 include all presets from SynthMaster 2 Player, or would I need to install the Player, too?

Thanks in advance!

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robelanator wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 12:21 pm From reading this thread over the last few months, my understanding is that SynthMaster 3 will automatically detect and import any SynthMaster 2 presets if SynthMaster 2 is installed on the same machine. Is that correct?
Yep
robelanator wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 12:21 pm Does SynthMaster 3 include all of the factory presets from SynthMaster 2, or would I need to install SynthMaster 2 alongside SynthMaster 3?
If SynthMaster 2 is not installed in your system, It installs SynthMaster 2 presets when you click on "Download my expansions" menu from the top header,
robelanator wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 12:21 pm Finally, does SynthMaster 2 include all presets from SynthMaster 2 Player, or would I need to install the Player, too?
No you don't have to install the Player
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mabian wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:20 pm MIDI learns aren't persisted in his REAPER 7.x projects (everytime the project is loaded MIDI learns assigned to parameters are simply lost) - Win 10x64.
Is the MIDI Learn type Global or Preset ? Global works as expected, just tested. But Preset was not restored from saved settings. I remember that was causing issues, so I disabled it. I will have to test it thoroughly before releasing a fix.

Could you possibly send me the Reaper project(s) so I can debug? I think I fixed the issue with "Midi Learn (Preset" as well
mabian wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:20 pm And, if trying to choose the "Add host parameter" right click menu to allow automating a parameter without MIDI learn - for example, IIRC, some kind of slope, REAPER crashes consistently to desktop.
Looks like the parameter name was too long and this was causing the crash. Just fixed it, will be in the next build on Friday. Thanks for the bug report!
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Is the MIDI Learn type Global or Preset ? Global works as expected, just tested. But Preset was not restored from saved settings. I remember that was causing issues, so I disabled it. I will have to test it thoroughly before releasing a fix.

Could you possibly send me the Reaper project(s) so I can debug? I think I fixed the issue with "Midi Learn (Preset" as well


The issue persists for both of the MIDI learn types. Every time I reload the Reaper project, Midi learns are forgotten and the parameters don't move. I have a project for you if you want to check, tell me where I can send it. To make it work, I have to Left click the FREQ parameter in the filter section and give a new MIDI learn (global or Preset) then I can Move the cc parameter in the ReaMIDIcontrol in order to finally have my automation. I've got to say that the "add host parameter" seems to work fine though. Thanks

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chrisgrandcatz wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:33 pm The issue persists for both of the MIDI learn types. Every time I reload the Reaper project, Midi learns are forgotten and the parameters don't move. I have a project for you if you want to check, tell me where I can send it. To make it work, I have to Left click the FREQ parameter in the filter section and give a new MIDI learn (global or Preset) then I can Move the cc parameter in the ReaMIDIcontrol in order to finally have my automation. I've got to say that the "add host parameter" seems to work fine though. Thanks
You guys can send the project files to

info AT kv331audio DOT com

Can you also send me the config file at: Documents/SynthMaster3/Config ?

Are you running the VST2 version or VST3? Do you have both VST2 and VST3 versions in your project?
(I am asking because VST2 and VST3 versions are different DLL files and they can both write to the config file for global midi learn parameters)

As I said, I can not reproduce any issues with Global MIDI Learn. I fixed the Preset MIDI Learn issue yesterday.
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mabian wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:20 pm MIDI learns aren't persisted in his REAPER 7.x projects (everytime the project is loaded MIDI learns assigned to parameters are simply lost) - Win 10x64.
And, if trying to choose the "Add host parameter" right click menu to allow automating a parameter without MIDI learn - for example, IIRC, some kind of slope, REAPER crashes consistently to desktop.
Both issues are fixed in v3.4.5

Please check for updates inside the plugin. and let me know if you still encounter issues with MIDI Learn. In that case, please email me the config file at: documents/synthmaster3/config
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Hi guys

We have a new expansion for SynthMaster 3 / SynthMaster 3 Player: NatLife Melodic Techno Sounds Volume 1



Enjoy!
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Underground techno is rising - way different compared to what we used to call techno back in 90s.
Probably it needs new name ...mechno :)
Love the vibe and sound these guy achieve.
Total freedom.
Example: Jules Vaya - Lost In Sound

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I'm a bit confused. SM3 Player is advertised as containing all factory presets from SM1, 2 & 3. Does SM3 include any presets from SM1 & 2's factory banks? It seems strange the 'lite' version would have more presets to work with than the more expensive full version. Furthermore, I own SM2 Player, which has 2,000 presets. SM3 boasts 3,150 presets. SM3 Player statistically can't contain all factory presets from the three versions of Synthmaster as it has less presets than SM3 and SM2 combined. So my question is what's included in each version? I'd appreciate some clarification before deciding what to upgrade to.

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skarvika wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:18 am I'm a bit confused. SM3 Player is advertised as containing all factory presets from SM1, 2 & 3. Does SM3 include any presets from SM1 & 2's factory banks? It seems strange the 'lite' version would have more presets to work with than the more expensive full version. Furthermore, I own SM2 Player, which has 2,000 presets. SM3 boasts 3,150 presets. SM3 Player statistically can't contain all factory presets from the three versions of Synthmaster as it has less presets than SM3 and SM2 combined. So my question is what's included in each version? I'd appreciate some clarification before deciding what to upgrade to.
SynthMaster 3 includes ALL factory presets of SynthMaster 2 and comes with 1150 new factory presets:

1150 + 2050 = 3200 presets

SynthMaster 3 Player includes all factory presets of SynthMaster One + 2 + 3:

1150 + 2050 + 1250 = 4450 presets

Although SynthMaster 3 Player is a "lite" version, in the end it is a different product and targeted towards a different user base. So that's why it comes with more presets than SynthMaster 3. SynthMaster 3 users can simply crossgrade to SynthMaster One to get those presets.
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