Korg Collection 6 with PS-3300, Trinity and SGX-2 Piano

[rafa1981]

Updated MS-20, minikorg, and Odyssey to the upper standard of arp 2600 and ps3300 would be great ! Simpler synths have their pros

Wouldn't those requiring an audio engine update be the legacy collection ones, like MS20, Mono/Poly and the Polysix?

The Oddysey and Minikorg filters have modern sound engines already if I remember correctly. The Odyssey could use an UI update though... (another one, they didn't get it right)

EDIT: probably you meant also ui-wise, not just the audio engine...
EDIT2: If we talk UI-wise a lot of them need work. The Wavestation specially is pure madness. Totally unfun to program. All the sample based ones should have a way to avoid dropdown menus, e.g. arrows for prev/next or/and being able to use the scroll wheel, etc.

[moss]

If you want to import your own preset banks into the Trinity plugin, here is how

Here's that 01/W Program bank copied into USER-A. It's 100 programs.
On the Mac, that's ~/Documents/KORG/TRINITY/UserBanks/Program/
(just replace the "USER-A" folder with this one)

Note that this method only lets you copy the programs, as the General MIDI bank doesn't have an associated Combi bank - you'd have to replace one of the others that does to get those. I haven't looked, but if someone can verify that 01/W bank on KorgForums also has combis, I'll copy them across too and re-upload.

Great, thank you!

[EvilDragon]

Updated MS-20, minikorg, and Odyssey to the upper standard of arp 2600 and ps3300 would be great ! Simpler synths have their pros

miniKORG and Odyssey are already using the more modern DSP techniques, they don't need to be updated on DSP end, as far as I'm concerned. MS-20, PolySix and Mono/Poly would need such an update.

[rafa1981]

I see that they went again with skeumorphism on the Trinity, replicating the UI of a tiny screen in the device (many tabs) instead of designing for usability on a computer. Is it tedious to program/another preset machine?

They keep doing the same mistake over and over IMO. I'm sure most of the users didn't have the original. What's the point?

[robelanator]

I can understand a 1:1 copy of the hardware UI for past/present owners of the hardware who are comfortable with that workflow, but it would be nice to have an alternate, new-and-improved UI that takes advantage of the possibilities inherent in a VST instrument, as well.

[IvyBirds]

I can understand a 1:1 copy of the hardware UI for past/present owners of the hardware who are comfortable with that workflow, but it would be nice to have an alternate, new-and-improved UI that takes advantage of the possibilities inherent in a VST instrument, as well.

Korg-Collection-6-Trinity-plugin__01.jpg

Weirdly I don't remember the hardware being a giant screen with a keybed

[robelanator]

Nice!

[EvilDragon]

It is far more usable than the original UI, it is not 1:1 skeuo.

[c_voltage]

But it is unclear whether it is permanent (or Can be, somehow) or only runs from envelope.

it appears that it is the output of the entire 3301 module - including envelope, filter, resonator, etc.

Ehh sad if so.
By idea, then should be some way to make trigging envelope thru internal mod abilities. Otherwise (with no that ability, as for modular) it would be strange decision imo. (When you have ability to "hear" lfo's, but not osc's)

[Trancer]

The possibility of including the 01/Wfd programs in a user bank is very interesting.

Are the 01/Wfd programs the original ones, or adapted for use with the Trinity?

Regarding the combinations, if I understand correctly, is it possible to replace the Trinity combinations with those of the 01/Wfd?

Will the sound be identical, or will there be differences compared to the original 01/Wfd programs and combinations?

[beely]

The possibility of including the 01/Wfd programs in a user bank is very interesting.
Are the 01/Wfd programs the original ones, or adapted for use with the Trinity?

There is no documentation in the download. I suspect someone just rebuilt the programs using the same or similar samples in the Trinity and did the best job they could. My guess is many of the samples are in there, but some are different, and some aren't in there at all and substitutions are likely used.

Regarding the combinations, if I understand correctly, is it possible to replace the Trinity combinations with those of the 01/Wfd?

I tried to get the combis from that bank (which are in there) in a similar way to the above described procedure, but the plugin wouldn't read them.

Will the sound be identical, or will there be differences compared to the original 01/Wfd programs and combinations?

You'd probably need to ask the person who did the conversion originally, or get someone who still has an 01/W to compare with the Trinity conversion.

I checked one converted sound, with a sample I have of that sound from the 01/W, and they weren't the same, so I guess in that case, the inbuilt sample used for that sound is different in the 01/W compared to the Trinity, and there will likely be others.

So don't go expecting 100% authenticity, imo. It is what it is...

[rafa1981]

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[rafa1981]

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[rafa1981]

Weirdly I don't remember the hardware being a giant screen with a keybed

Hangover day. As a non-hardware owner it was the video below that misled me (beginning). Now watching again it's just the plugin itself with the keys and all. Cool to be wrong.

[Trancer]

abeille

Thank you so much for your reply and detailed explanation.

It's a shame Korg didn't release the 01/wfd as a VST.

Without criticizing their choice, instead of yet another piano version where there are already countless models and VST emulations, the 01/wfd might have been a better fit.