MeldaProduction

vectorwarrior · Post by **vectorwarrior** » Fri Sep 05, 2025 11:12 am

Been using Melda stuff for a long time and this has been bugging me. I'd like the LFO modulators to be NOT tied to playback, so they don't reset when you press play. Instead I want them free running.

To be clear, this is NOT using the Sync speed, and instead just the 'rate' control which is set in Hz.

I'm rendering sound effects and want effectively random start points in LFO's with each render. But it seems that LFO's will ALWAYS reset to zero when pressing play and when rendering... so each of my renders have identical LFO behaviour.

I can set up a system where I use a random modulator to specify the 'phase' of the LFO... and then use another modulator with an envelope so the speed of that random modulator drops to -1000 (frozen) when there's audio playing. But that's needlessly complicated for something that should be simple.

Am I missing a setting somewhere? I have looked but can't find anything.

Thanks

jan-sandahl · Post by **jan-sandahl** » Sat Sep 06, 2025 7:17 pm

I think you're right. It should be there.

jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:30 am

That is odd, because when I test this, the LFO does NOT reset with DAW playback. It does if I have sync on, but not if it's off.

Held · Post by **Held** » Mon Sep 08, 2025 5:10 pm

I think one of Melda's principle is repeatable playbacks. Random modulators/generators also always generate the same sequence after playback is started.

Having more options to control the randomness would be nice, though. For example, choosing a different seed for random generators would be nice. Or regenerating the sequence in MSF's "Sequence" modulator.

Or, as suggested in the feature request, to leave the LFO free running.

But for music, repeatability is very desirable, so I'm happy this is what we have.

jmg8 wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:30 am That is odd, because when I test this, the LFO does NOT reset with DAW playback. It does if I have sync on, but not if it's off.

At least in REAPER on Windows 11, the LFO jumps to the start when playback is triggered. Try setting the LFO to a very slow time and wait till it's moved to the middle. If you start playback, it should jump to the start.

On Nuendo, however, the LFO keeps running. Strange. I'd love for the LFO to be predictable in Nuendo as well.

vectorwarrior · Post by **vectorwarrior** » Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:45 pm

Ah yeah, I'm on reaper too (most game audio people use reaper) so it must be related to the daw then. Definitely would be good to have a simple 'reset on start' button that people like me can disable.

No_Use · Post by **No_Use** » Mon Sep 08, 2025 10:05 pm

Not sure if that's it, but in Reaper when you rightclick a plugin in the FX list there's Compatibility settings > Hard reset on playback start, which I think is enabled by default, try unticking it.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Fri Sep 12, 2025 10:34 am

No_Use wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 10:05 pm Not sure if that's it, but in Reaper when you rightclick a plugin in the FX list there's Compatibility settings > Hard reset on playback start, which I think is enabled by default, try unticking it.

PLease try that indeed. It's really the repeatibility - in 99.9999% cases you want the result to be identical. But for you it's kinda different indeed. If the Reaper thingy wouldn't work, let me know, an option could certainly be added (I just don't like to add options for 1 in million users unless necessary

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Held · Post by **Held** » Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:39 pm

MeldaProduction wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 10:34 am It's really the repeatibility - in 99.9999% cases you want the result to be identical.

Is there a chance you could check the reset in Nuendo? The LFO doesn't get reset to the starting position there on playback.

Edit: Or maybe even an option to sync to the project playback time? So if you start the project with a 1Hz LFO at 0.5 seconds it starts at 180° and so on.

jan-sandahl · Post by **jan-sandahl** » Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:49 pm

No_Use wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 10:05 pm Not sure if that's it, but in Reaper when you rightclick a plugin in the FX list there's Compatibility settings > Hard reset on playback start, which I think is enabled by default, try unticking it.

Can't find that wording, or find something similar sounding solving this. Could you direct us to the exact place and wording for the setting? Thanks!

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Thu Oct 30, 2025 11:05 am

Held wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:39 pm
MeldaProduction wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 10:34 am It's really the repeatibility - in 99.9999% cases you want the result to be identical.
Is there a chance you could check the reset in Nuendo? The LFO doesn't get reset to the starting position there on playback.

Edit: Or maybe even an option to sync to the project playback time? So if you start the project with a 1Hz LFO at 0.5 seconds it starts at 180° and so on.

That's not that simple - tempo may change etc., sample position doesn't work that well and would cause problems when playback is disabled etc. Why don't you use the Sync?

Held · Post by **Held** » Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:03 pm

MeldaProduction wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 11:05 am That's not that simple - tempo may change etc., sample position doesn't work that well and would cause problems when playback is disabled etc. Why don't you use the Sync?

I'm guessing that means a plugin doesn't get the project time reported by the host? That makes it indeed difficult. Sync works fine, but sometimes I want to smoothly automate the frequency of an LFO which doesn't work with it synced as far as I know.

Not super important, but would be nice.

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Any way to make LFO's NOT reset on playback start?