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xbitz wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 3:59 pm
Teksonik wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 3:37 pm
xbitz wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 3:24 pm
Teksonik wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:32 pm How does one download the version 6 demo? Every time I click "Try" it points to 5.3.13
With the current Black Friday sale going on I might consider updating my version of Bitwig which has long since expired but only if I can demo version 6 first.
it requires an active account. so from Splice — https://splice.com/daws/39084269-bitwig ... 3656262594
— which gives a 14-day free trial with an acitve account
I have an active Bitwig account but I stopped paying the update fees at 5.0.11 since they've never added anything I wanted or needed. I no longer use Bitwig.

I just wanted to try the version 6 demo to see if they have added anything I need to justify the update cost and encourage me to use BW again.

There is no way I'm paying just to demo version 6 especially not from Splice. :uhuhuh:
why would you pay for a 14 day free period, dont get it :help:
EXACTLY !
KVRaudioline - Hobbyists are not lesser beings! :help:
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People that label others as conspiracy theorists, usually are those that refuse to check the facts themselves!

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...and there is this, that has been going on anywhere:
https://www.production-expert.com/produ ... s-upgrades

Being fair: Bitwig 6 did add some good features, for those that need them - I just did not manage to test them, so no upgrade expense this time... spent on hardware I needed and I am 'just' an hobbyist, I can only imagine Pros' dilemma on allocating funds!
KVRaudioline - Hobbyists are not lesser beings! :help:
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People that label others as conspiracy theorists, usually are those that refuse to check the facts themselves!

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KVRaudioline wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:22 am Considering FL Studio with perpetual upgrades
Good luck with fruit loops. Hope you enjoy it.

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KVRaudioline wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:22 am
crossmod wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:35 pm
Teksonik wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:32 pm How does one download the version 6 demo? Every time I click "Try" it
There is no demo yet. Version 6 is currently in beta, and you have to have an active licence to use it.
I decided NOT to update, since I cannot test it... also considering a switch because support has abandoned me...

Seeking change and either sell licence or use it as a sound creator = The Grid

Considering FL Studio with perpetual upgrades - but it is more geeky ...
Bitwig is not what it was any more - meaning the Managing direction...
Boh
You could just wait until 6 is released and test it then. Sure you can use FL Studio, but then you'll also have to deal with awkward floating windows, heavy menu diving, weird workflow quirks, and a lot of things that make no sense.

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stoopicus wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 8:25 am
Teksonik wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 3:37 pm There is no way I'm paying just to demo version 6 especially not from Splice. :uhuhuh:
Cool. So it sounds like everything is working as intended for you then. You’re not paying, and you’re not getting the beta.
No my fanboi friend everything is not "working as intended". That's why I no longer use Bitwig and haven't paid the upgrade fee since before 5.0.11 which is the latest version in my account.

But I would like to try the version 6 beta to see if the things I want and need have been added or issues fixed so I can justify the update cost.

To say someone who did pay for Bitwig can not try the latest beta because they won't pay more to do so is ridiculous and in the end Bitwig is only shooting themselves in the foot.

Who better to beta test your software than those who are not satisfied with it for whatever reason since they're going to provide you with valuable market feedback. Fanbois are just going to slobber all over the release no matter how bad it may be.

My prediction is that they won't release 6 until the holiday sales are over and they're simply going to lose at least one potential sale and perhaps more. Since I don't use Bitwig now I'm not losing a thing.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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If you don't like the release version why even bother?
I quickly tired of playing with the Beta 3 versions ago, but I'm happy with 5x
IMO Bitwig felt like a better bargain when we got frequent incremental updates to the release version…
What are people loving about 6 they can't do in 5?
Teksonik wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:38 pm
crossmod wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:35 pm
Teksonik wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:32 pm How does one download the version 6 demo? Every time I click "Try" it points to 5.3.13

With the current Black Friday sale going on I might consider updating my version of Bitwig which has long since expired but only if I can demo version 6 first.
There is no demo yet. Version 6 is currently in beta, and you have to have an active licence to use it.
Ok thanks, Cha Ching....no sale. I'm not paying to update blindly. :shrug:

It's confusing since version 6 shows on their page:

https://www.bitwig.com/


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stamp wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:37 pm
Trancit wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:31 am
stamp wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 4:17 pm
FenixRizn wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 2:54 pm Their statement said they were aiming for a fall 2025 full release. Fall officially ends in Germany on 11/30....Fingers crossed. My luck, it'll be spring 2026 and I'll have to pony up again.
In the rest of the world it ends on the 20th of december.
In the Germany I knew it was 20th of december too... no idea what has changed since I left... :lol:
They are so forward thinking that they anticipated the seasons..hehe..

I'm just repeating what our new lord and savior A.I Jesus told me lol. "The last day of fall in Germany is generally considered to be November 30, as autumn (Herbst) in Germany spans from September 1 to November 30 according to the meteorological calendar."

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PDPete wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:19 pm If you don't like the release version why even bother?
Not to state the painfully obvious...because the new version might be better? I mean if they're charging for updates those updates should be improvements right?

Now do I have a high degree of faith that it will add the things I want or fix the issues I have? No but I'm willing to give the beta a try during the holiday sale period.

I've been an alpha and beta tester for several DAWs so there is a good chance I could contribute to the effort.

But if Bitwig wants to restrict the beta to those who have an active subscription (let's be honest that's what it is) then they've lost a potential sale and I've lost....absolutely nothing. :shrug:
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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I switched from FL Studio this summer - been producing for 20+ years with FL as primary go to, with short stints / projects in Cubase, Ableton, Audio mulch, Jeskola Buzz as well.

FL's customizability is amazing - and if you learned on it you get used to the workflow. I had a nice template that surpassed a lot of the quirks. I found automation and modulation to be an ABSOLUTR PITA in a way that was really limiting my productions. I switched to Bitwig for better modulation and automation, and it delivers. 6 is better than 5 for automation. It absolutely delivers on what I needed it for and is worth the cost and learning curve.

I've been pleasantly surprised by the power of note effects and use them more than I expected.

I love all things modular so the Grid was a big draw - but honestly I just boot up Reaktor or PlugData or other modular environments more often as I find the grid a bit underwhelming. I wish they'd partner with Michael Hetrick / Unfiltered Audio and get all the logic modules and mixers from EuroReakt into there.

Overall, Bitwig has opened doors for me in the past 5 months that were never going to really open for me in FL.

I still support Image Line I think elements of what they do are fantastic - Harmor is STILL the best additive synth IMO.

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Teksonik wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 1:13 pm To say someone who did pay for Bitwig can not try the latest beta because they won't pay more to do so is ridiculous and in the end Bitwig is only shooting themselves in the foot.
The terms to be in the beta are "active upgrade account". It's simple. It's also more generous than many companies, as many DAW do not run open betas.

What you are essentially saying is that you think you should get something for free that the rest of us paid for. Sorry, you don't.

Now, before you accuse me of fanboi-ism again simply for pointing out facts, let me say that I fully believe you think we should all get this for free, not just you. I get it. However, that's simply not how it is.

The difference here is I recognize that Bitwig is making something available to people who would ordinarily get it anyway, just well in advance in exchange for testing. Basically by making the beta available early, they have extended the update window by several months for those users - per per multiple sources online, if your upgrade plan is active during a beta release, you will receive the full release version, even if the official release is outside your plan’s active period. On Bitwig's site:
We're aiming to release v6 in the fall. As always, this upgrade is free to all customers with an active Upgrade Plan (as of August 27, 2025).
So even if 6.0 ships in 2026, users who had an active upgrade plan as of a couple months ago will get it.

Even just running an open beta at all is good - I wish more companies would do it.

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PDPete wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:19 pm What are people loving about 6 they can't do in 5?
With the under the hood UI improvements and the work for the 6 beta the arrangement and note editor UIs are subtlety but definitely much nicer to work with. It's just an overall improved experience.

And regarding general updates, I really liked the drum synths, but there's a huge amount of stuff since 5.0.

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Bitwig Studio 5.1 introduces
numerous new sound design tools, workflow enhancements, and mixing improvements. Key updates include four new character filters (Fizz, Rasp, Ripple, Vowels) and six new waveshapers (Heat, Howl, Push, Soar, Shred, Diode), accessible via the Grid, Polymer, and new modular FX containers like Filter+ and Sweep. Workflow improvements include a new audio quantize function, better automation editing gestures, a more customizable mixer view, and enhanced clip launching options.

Since version 5.1,
Bitwig Studio has released versions 5.2, 5.3, and 6, which have introduced new devices, significant workflow enhancements, and an overhaul of core editing features.
Version 5.2
This update primarily focused on new studio tools and a new graphics engine.

New Devices:
Compressor+: A professional, multi-band compressor with features like a Dual mode for upward compression and VCA Colors for analog character.
EQs: Three new hardware-inspired EQs: Focus, Sculpt, and Tilt.
Over: A new clipper device.
Graphics Engine: The graphics engine was rewritten for hardware acceleration, resulting in a more responsive interface and optimized performance.
Workflow: Enhanced audio editing capabilities, including improved tempo estimation for audio loops and dynamic beat detection.

Version 5.3
This update introduced new drum instruments, master recording capabilities, and improved performance.

New Drum Devices: 25 new drum instruments across three families (v8/808-inspired, v9/909-inspired, v0/digital) with features like keyboard tracking and pitch control.
Master Recording: A new dedicated Master Recording section in the transport bar allows users to capture the main audio output to a new audio file easily.
New Grid Modules: Added new modules, including an analog-style Freq Shift+ (also available as an Audio FX device), CV Pitch In, and workflow modules like Step Access and Accents.
Performance: Faster loading times for projects, patches, and presets.
Compatibility: Added support for Windows on Arm systems.

Version 6
This major update brought extensive changes to core workflow, automation, and project structure.

Automation Clips: Automation can now be handled in dedicated clips, separate from audio or note clips, allowing them to be moved, looped, and saved to the library like any other clip.
Clip Aliases: A new way to handle repetition in the arrangement; editing a source clip updates all its aliases instantly.
Project-wide Key Signature: A global key signature setting to guide note editing tools and devices, with automation available for root key and scale changes.
Editing Tools:
Spray Can tool: For painting in new automation gestures like "spread" and "hold".
Audition tool: A new tool for quickly previewing individual clips or sections of the arrangement.
Layered Editing: Overhauled for simultaneous editing of multiple clips.
Interface: A modernized look with improved customization options, a new action bar, and a more comprehensive dark mode.

For more details on these and other features, you can check the official Bitwig website.

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Teksonik wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 7:49 pm Now do I have a high degree of faith that it will add the things I want or fix the issues I have? No but I'm willing to give the beta a try during the holiday sale period.

But if Bitwig wants to restrict the beta to those who have an active subscription (let's be honest that's what it is) then they've lost a potential sale and I've lost....absolutely nothing. :shrug:
You might be overthinking this... Certainly you've derailed the thread with your anxiety. Oooh should I use Bitwig, should I not use Bitwig.

Either wait until 6 is released and demo it, or trust in the general positive feedback and pick up the upgrade at a discount. If you buy the upgrade as a gift, you don't need to activate it immediately you can wait until you want to activate it.

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Cyoon wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 8:43 pm No, there are so much things in Bitwig now with Curve modulator etc, no need for polyverse gatekeeper imo. At least I never use it.
Its great that it's built in, but I think it's a basic implementation and could have a better UI that's a bit quicker to work with. I'm thinking like the OG Massive Implementation with more curve type for quick selection. I mean it's fine, but it's just fine and could easily be much better.

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_leras wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 11:34 pm
Cyoon wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 8:43 pm No, there are so much things in Bitwig now with Curve modulator etc, no need for polyverse gatekeeper imo. At least I never use it.
Its great that it's built in, but I think it's a basic implementation and could have a better UI that's a bit quicker to work with. I'm thinking like the OG Massive Implementation with more curve type for quick selection. I mean it's fine, but it's just fine and could easily be much better.
This is true for a lot of the builtins in most DAW, really. Logic (and now Bitwig) have step sequencer builtins, for example. Will either replace Stepic? No. Do I use them more often than Stepic? Well... probably, for drums anyway.

Even more true for the builtin EQs vs something like Pro-Q. There's a big capability gulf there, but I still use the EQ builtins most of the time, they are just simple and easy for most things.

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stoopicus wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 10:59 pm The terms to be in the beta are "active upgrade account". It's simple. It's also more generous than many companies, as many DAW do not run open betas.
It's also stupid from a business standpoint. Not wanting feedback from people who haven't paid to be on the update train is valuable information. Why did they not update? Is it because the updates weren't worth it (as in my case). What can be done to entice them to pay for the updates? Or are they making enough money by simply suckering people into paying ahead of time for updates that no one knows what they will contain?

It's a BETA. It will expire (if they know what they're doing and I'm not sure they do). It's not you getting anything you paid for it's you getting to work for them for free.

I'm not asking for anything for "free". All I'm asking is to test the future version to see if it's worth the upgrade price. If that's asking too much then it won't matter what the update price will be I'm not doing business with such a company.

Again asking someone to pay just to test a beta is a repugnant business practice whether that triggers the fanbois or not.

The bottom line is I could not possible care less what you think. My relationship is with a company and its product not with their sycophant fan base.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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