Adam Szabo - AIRWAVE Out Now! (JP-8080 VST)

[frag]

Isn't this year amazing for JP fans

But it's difficult to follow after 8000 V...

Airwave has an excellent GUI, it's got ridiculously low CPU usage, lower than 8000 V which is already quite low, and the inclusion of 32bit plugin is great, because this thing runs on old machines like Notepad. So I'm sure it will be used by many.
For me, however, playing it feels like a generic VSTi from 2005 - there's nothing unique about the sound (though I'm extremely picky). It sounds somewhat hollow, unreal.
I'd say math, oscilloscopes and similar tools get you only so far. In the end human ear is the final judge on the aesthetics of sound.
So wash your ears, improve your sleep, see an audiologist - if you can't feel any difference between HW JP, Sunriser, 8000 V or Airwave WHILE ACTUALLY PLAYING THE INSTRUMENT, you're doing something wrong. RME interface, a pair of Adams (not Szabos ) and SHARP EARS will show you what I mean. Blind tests & comparisons are useless, all it matters is how the instrument actually feels while actually writing music.

Do I prefer TUS 1:1 emulator? No, not at all! I collect their emulators mainly for historical reasons. Most people can't hear that digital signal path also introduces subtle distortions to the sound, though different in character than analog. It's not only DAC, it's DSP chips, connectors, housing & everything. So running "dry" DSP code on a PC motherboard is not same as running it on dedicated hardware. On Korg Trinity VST, you can try DAC sim button, and I suspect Tirton also has this processor though you can't turn it off. That's why it sounds so realistic, convincing, like a hardware instrument.

It seems Arturia's version has everything I need, and much more... Someone paid attention to micro details in sound. And such people are rare today, because after all the junk food, alcohol, cigarettes, extremely loud music and so on, you can't really tell a difference between $10 kid's Casio and a Minimoog. It's all the same - just shut up make "music"

[omac]

This is literally a continuation of your "Arturia Jup-8000 V" opinion. We get it. You love Arturia's Jup 8000. Breathe. This is just a thread announcing Adam Szabo's Airwave.

[Vortifex]

I tried the Arturia but I didn't like using it. Also it lacks the dual layer feature of the original, making it less useful for sound design.

One thing I dislike about Airwave is the clicky envelopes, which is a 'feature' of the original synth. That's one area where I'd have been happy for it to be inaccurate It makes certain bass sounds unusable. It's not a great bass synth anyway.

[mambo888]

Alesis A6 Andromeda, thank you

I actually thought about this one too, but I dont know that much about it other that it sounds great. Does it also use a firmware like digital hardware synths or its 100% full analog?

It's one of the greatest analogue synth

Who needs another analog synth emulation? I mean is there not enough already? Don’t get me wrong, for fun why not but what is really the point.

If you really want to emulate an analog synth, emulate the moog muse, get there 99% or 99.9%, that would be an interesting as a challenge.

Of course many people will say it doesn’t sound anything like that even if it sounds 99.999% the same.

[Lbdunequest]

Alesis A6 Andromeda, thank you

I actually thought about this one too, but I dont know that much about it other that it sounds great. Does it also use a firmware like digital hardware synths or its 100% full analog?

It's one of the greatest analogue synth

Who needs another analog synth emulation? I mean is there not enough already? Don’t get me wrong, for fun why not but what is really the point.

If you really want to emulate an analog synth, emulate the moog muse, get there 99% or 99.9%, that would be an interesting as a challenge.

Of course many people will say it doesn’t sound anything like that even if it sounds 99.999% the same.

I think its interesting for preservation since Alesis Andromeda A6 has been discontinued. However, i also think its pointless, at least for my needs. In fact many synths i bought are bought really pointlessly. I can easely get by just with Serum 2.

Also when it comes to features and overal analogyness The Legend HZ might be something similar. Not the sound tho, maybe, i never played with Andromeda.

[seafire]

Who needs another analog synth emulation?

Customers, obviously. Why do you think the majority of devs are pumping out these emulations?

Easy money.

[BBFG#]

The plugin is definitely interesting to me. Have to get past the name though. Triggers my avoidance to two other companies, "Air" and "Waves".

[seafire]

The chewing gum?

[DCrown]

The plugin is definitely interesting to me. Have to get past the name though. Triggers my avoidance to two other companies, "Air" and "Waves".

Indeed, my fav devs:)

[_leras]

Adam, why the name Airwave? I'm curious to know.

I imagine it's named after the Rank 1 track titled Airwave.

[_leras]

@Adam Szabo
"My next project was going to be the Yamaha AN1X..."

AN1x, this is a great idea,
one of the best ideas I have ever heard.
French are not good at making Yamaha emus,
your name let's me assume you are closer to Japan haha

Well he can make anything he wants if it's going to sound as good as Airwave.

Some people say their modern softsynths surpass the jp8000, but I think they miss the fact that the JP has a unique and classic sound that most soft synths do not.

edit: btw, I think it does tons of great sounds that are not the overused anthemic death of trance supersaw pads, and Airwaves really captures these well.

Airwave captures it very well!

[_leras]

Who needs another analog synth emulation? I mean is there not enough already? Don’t get me wrong, for fun why not but what is really the point.

You must be real fun with that adventurous spirit.

More analogue synths, more digital synths, more software synths, more music please. I take my hat off to all instrument makers.

(There didn't used to be that many good A6 demos but there are some great examples on YouTube, gotta say it sounds fabulous)

[BONES]

If you're looking for something to emulate, I reckon you could do a lot worse than the Korg Delta. OK, it's a very simple synth, with some unique features, but it had such a great sound. If you could emulate that sound and add useful features to it, like an ensemble effect for the string section, it could be a real winner.

[vurt]

The chewing gum?

[DCrown]

Who needs another analog synth emulation? I mean is there not enough already? Don’t get me wrong, for fun why not but what is really the point.

You must be real fun with that adventurous spirit.

More analogue synths, more digital synths, more software synths, more music please. I take my hat off to all instrument makers.

(There didn't used to be that many good A6 demos but there are some great examples on YouTube, gotta say it sounds fabulous)

more music? Please no. About 100.000 new uploads on Spotify every day!!!!
And thanks to AI in 5 years probably 1 Mio uploads every day.
Imagine 1 Mio grand pianos would be produced everyday. Waste of time and energy. More than 95% of the pianos won't ever find a customer.
So also devs making softsynths in future will be waste of time snd money.
Have you seen how AI creates music already today? You just tell AInwhat you want and within less than 1 minute you get 5 different versions.
That's for the next generation, they won't need softsynths.
I like Airwave, even though I generally don't like Roland products at all (I love Boss a lot, though).
I had a JV 2080 as teen, one of the most soulless, most unspectacular synths I know, nightmare and the sound of Juno, Jupiter or TB 303 makes me get headaches!
So it is a valid point to ask whether we need more softsynths. You reaction shows that you might be older than 25?;