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Right, VRC6/VRC7 etc.

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EvilDragon wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 2:03 pm Right, VRC6/VRC7 etc.
And N163, and FDS and S5B
yes
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davidv@plogue wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:55 pm
IvyBirds wrote: Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:07 pm The sample playback on those Ricoh 2A03 chips was pretty interesting in that it could do 1 bit DPCM. It wasn't used much but certain games like Super Mario Bros 3 used it for drums
Looking forward to messing around with that in the upcoming Plogue version
Sure is. Note that FC is way more than just NES audio. In a way its kind of a meta chip product as it includes all the main Japanese audio addon chips that were used by some developers back in the day. So on top of more pulse/square variants you also have some quite unique digital wavetables and even some FM in there too. All that needs time to get absolutely right.
I knew it! :)

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davidv@plogue wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:55 pm
IvyBirds wrote: Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:07 pm The sample playback on those Ricoh 2A03 chips was pretty interesting in that it could do 1 bit DPCM. It wasn't used much but certain games like Super Mario Bros 3 used it for drums
Looking forward to messing around with that in the upcoming Plogue version
Sure is. Note that FC is way more than just NES audio. In a way its kind of a meta chip product as it includes all the main Japanese audio addon chips that were used by some developers back in the day. So on top of more pulse/square variants you also have some quite unique digital wavetables and even some FM in there too. All that needs time to get absolutely right.
Looking forward to it David

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Here's a great example of the difference between the Famicom's chip and the NES:


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Chipsynth OPS7 DEMO finally runs on my Linux System inside Bitwig 5.3.13.
A bit a very short Demo *lol* :x

The Main issue is the install Path of the CLAP Plugin.
Bitwig do not show this path, so i can't use the Plugin.

Here is the issue...

Please do not use:

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/usr/lib/clap/
use

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~/.clap/
instead?!?

For me its the home folder and it seems to work if i manually drop the .clap
into my home folder.


Appreciate another Linux Developer...it works...more and more build native Linux Plugins...that's just awesome. :tu:

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System:
    Kernel: 6.16.12-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.16-11~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 tk: Qt v: 5.15.8 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM
    Distro: MX-23.6_ahs_x64 Libretto - Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    

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NWSM wrote: Tue Nov 25, 2025 4:08 am Please do not use:

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/usr/lib/clap/
use

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~/.clap/
instead?!?
Both are valid and it really depends on DAW. Reaper picks it from /usr/lib/clap no problem
The install script calls dpkg as sudo so its not really meant to copy stuff over to ~/
I could add post section in the script and ask the user if they want a copy of their plugins in ~/ as well though. You are not the first one to ask this.
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davidv@plogue wrote: Tue Nov 25, 2025 1:49 pm
NWSM wrote: Tue Nov 25, 2025 4:08 am Please do not use:

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/usr/lib/clap/
use

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~/.clap/
instead?!?
Both are valid and it really depends on DAW. Reaper picks it from /usr/lib/clap no problem
The install script calls dpkg as sudo so its not really meant to copy stuff over to ~/
I could add post section in the script and ask the user if they want a copy of their plugins in ~/ as well though. You are not the first one to ask this.
Yeah i would appreciate just an option,because yeah its kinda my standard and - well - if its depending on DAW's i understand the issue. I mean if i could manually add this other Folder it would work, but well BITWIG :scared: (great daw rly ^^,)

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NWSM wrote: Tue Nov 25, 2025 4:08 am Chipsynth OPS7 DEMO finally runs on my Linux System inside Bitwig 5.3.13.
A bit a very short Demo *lol* :x

The Main issue is the install Path of the CLAP Plugin.
Bitwig do not show this path, so i can't use the Plugin.

Here is the issue...

Please do not use:

Code: Select all

/usr/lib/clap/
use

Code: Select all

~/.clap/
instead?!?

For me its the home folder and it seems to work if i manually drop the .clap
into my home folder.


Appreciate another Linux Developer...it works...more and more build native Linux Plugins...that's just awesome. :tu:

Code: Select all

System:
    Kernel: 6.16.12-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.16-11~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 tk: Qt v: 5.15.8 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM
    Distro: MX-23.6_ahs_x64 Libretto - Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    
While we're on this topic, I recently had the CLAP version of OPS7 stop working on Bitwig on Windows. It used to work but now it doesn't

https://imgur.com/orjzpeO

VST3 works fine, though, so I'm using that.

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shatteredmindofbob wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 2:54 am
NWSM wrote: Tue Nov 25, 2025 4:08 am Chipsynth OPS7 DEMO finally runs on my Linux System inside Bitwig 5.3.13.
A bit a very short Demo *lol* :x

The Main issue is the install Path of the CLAP Plugin.
Bitwig do not show this path, so i can't use the Plugin.

Here is the issue...

Please do not use:

Code: Select all

/usr/lib/clap/
use

Code: Select all

~/.clap/
instead?!?

For me its the home folder and it seems to work if i manually drop the .clap
into my home folder.


Appreciate another Linux Developer...it works...more and more build native Linux Plugins...that's just awesome. :tu:

Code: Select all

System:
    Kernel: 6.16.12-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.16-11~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 tk: Qt v: 5.15.8 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM
    Distro: MX-23.6_ahs_x64 Libretto - Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    
While we're on this topic, I recently had the CLAP version of OPS7 stop working on Bitwig on Windows. It used to work but now it doesn't

https://imgur.com/orjzpeO

VST3 works fine, though, so I'm using that.
I have the same issue as well

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Korg Supporter wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 4:06 am I have the same issue as well
Still on 5.3.13 here and I don't have clap issues.
Is that on 6.x+?
Any special steps? Hosting mode (in process/remote etc)
Cheers
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https://plogue.com

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davidv@plogue wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 2:26 pm
Korg Supporter wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 4:06 am I have the same issue as well
Still on 5.3.13 here and I don't have clap issues.
Is that on 6.x+?
Any special steps? Hosting mode (in process/remote etc)
Cheers
I need to check my version when I'm home, but I'm sure it's 5.3. Both my Mac and Gaming PC have that issue. I typically use sandboxing

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davidv@plogue wrote: Tue Nov 25, 2025 1:49 pm
NWSM wrote: Tue Nov 25, 2025 4:08 am Please do not use:

Code: Select all

/usr/lib/clap/
use

Code: Select all

~/.clap/
instead?!?
Both are valid and it really depends on DAW. Reaper picks it from /usr/lib/clap no problem
The install script calls dpkg as sudo so its not really meant to copy stuff over to ~/
I could add post section in the script and ask the user if they want a copy of their plugins in ~/ as well though. You are not the first one to ask this.
Hi David,

With the next generation Linux distributions, where most things are atomic/immutable/containerized, and also with those who use Flatpak, the best place for future installs is in the Home directory where everything is accessible. Making everything be stored in the user's Home directory will be the best for future-proofing your software.

I really appreciate you supporting Linux!!!! Best wishes!! :)
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.:mad:
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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audiojunkie wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 4:34 pm
davidv@plogue wrote: Tue Nov 25, 2025 1:49 pm
NWSM wrote: Tue Nov 25, 2025 4:08 am Please do not use:

Code: Select all

/usr/lib/clap/
use

Code: Select all

~/.clap/
instead?!?
Both are valid and it really depends on DAW. Reaper picks it from /usr/lib/clap no problem
The install script calls dpkg as sudo so its not really meant to copy stuff over to ~/
I could add post section in the script and ask the user if they want a copy of their plugins in ~/ as well though. You are not the first one to ask this.
Hi David,

With the next generation Linux distributions, where most things are atomic/immutable/containerized, and also with those who use Flatpak, the best place for future installs is in the Home directory where everything is accessible. Making everything be stored in the user's Home directory will be the best for future-proofing your software.

I really appreciate you supporting Linux!!!! Best wishes!! :)
Additional explaining and benefit:

It is recommended (but still not popular for thos who switching from windows) installing the HOME Folder in Linux Distributions on a separated Partition. This makes Backup, Updating + Changing Disto, Resizing Partitions and everything more comfortable.

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A true Linux user would make a build package and then let the package manager track where stuff is installed, no?

What is this Windows manually installing things ethos ewwww
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