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[Uncle E]

Up to 50% off all Spitfire Audio:
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Is there a 20% extra discount (as per the Spitfire website for their email subscribers) ?

Sorry, no, only our normal discount codes.

[kurviak]

@Teksonik, sorry, you've lost me at "Here's what A.I. has to say" You preferred to believe it and not the several real people who shared their factual knowledge with you based on real-life experience, just for the sake of repeating yourself. Yep, we are not going further here. We'll use caution, thank you.

It's astonishing how many people (usually over 40 years old) I've seen lately that blindly trust whatever the AI bot generates. It reminds me of the older folks that blindly trusted their GPS when they were new. Some of them drove into lakes, off cliffs, and into houses..

Not sure I'd toss an age on it. I'm 52 and teach at a grad school. An unbelievable number of people in their 20's act as if AI is the holy grail of information. It's f**king bonkers.

Yeah, that's also my experience, and I'm 53.

[Caine123]

hi, does someone know if Rob Papen Upgrades have sometimes a sale?

[concealed identity]

@Teksonik, sorry, you've lost me at "Here's what A.I. has to say" You preferred to believe it and not the several real people who shared their factual knowledge with you based on real-life experience, just for the sake of repeating yourself. Yep, we are not going further here. We'll use caution, thank you.

It's astonishing how many people (usually over 40 years old) I've seen lately that blindly trust whatever the AI bot generates. It reminds me of the older folks that blindly trusted their GPS when they were new. Some of them drove into lakes, off cliffs, and into houses..

I've noticed a new type of commenter on music production discussion spaces who uses AI summaries to give a bunch of uninformed and often totally inaccurate information and then gets angry and hostile when that info is corrected or not appreciated. At first I thought it was just one random weirdo, but I've been seeing it so much lately. (This isn't referring to anyone in this convo, just a general off-topic thought)

[GaryG]

anyone any experience of these, Philips Fidelio X2HR headphones? ...

I have them - for this price it's a no-brainer. I'd even consider getting the second pair

Cheers, do you find them useful for music production at all?

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[Aloysius]

@Teksonik, sorry, you've lost me at "Here's what A.I. has to say" You preferred to believe it and not the several real people who shared their factual knowledge with you based on real-life experience, just for the sake of repeating yourself. Yep, we are not going further here. We'll use caution, thank you.

It's astonishing how many people (usually over 40 years old) I've seen lately that blindly trust whatever the AI bot generates. It reminds me of the older folks that blindly trusted their GPS when they were new. Some of them drove into lakes, off cliffs, and into houses..

I've noticed a new type of commenter on music production discussion spaces who uses AI summaries to give a bunch of uninformed and often totally inaccurate information and then gets angry and hostile when that info is corrected or not appreciated. At first I thought it was just one random weirdo, but I've been seeing it so much lately. (This isn't referring to anyone in this convo, just a general off-topic thought)

I asked AI to improve your comment.

Listen, I’ve uncovered a BRAND-NEW BREED of commenter in music-production spaces, and they operate on PURE VOLUME AND ZERO ACCURACY.

These folks show up like:
“HEY EVERYONE I DON’T KNOW WHAT A WAVEFORM IS BUT LET ME EXPLAIN WHY YOU’RE ALL MIXING WRONG.”

They confidently declare masterpieces of misinformation such as:
• “A compressor makes your track longer.”
• “MIDI is just Wi-Fi for notes.”
• “You HAVE to record vocals in a bathroom or the frequencies won’t ripen.”

Then someone tries to correct them — gently, kindly, like telling a toddler not to put a fork in a socket — and they IMMEDIATELY go nuclear:
“WOW OKAY SORRY YOU CAN’T HANDLE MY PROFESSIONAL INSIGHTS I WATCHED HALF A YOUTUBE VIDEO ABOUT MIXING AND IT CHANGED MY LIFE.”

At first I figured it was just one guy with a cracked version of Audacity and a dream.
But no.
THEY ARE BREEDING.

Every time someone posts “How do I EQ vocals?” another one respawns with a paragraph of advice that could legally qualify as sonic terrorism.

(And again, not talking about anyone here — unless you’ve ever yelled “GAIN STAGING IS A MYTH” at a stranger and then rage-quit the thread.)

[Gamma-UT]

I asked AI to improve your comment.

Listen, I’ve uncovered a BRAND-NEW BREED of commenter in music-production spaces, and they operate on PURE VOLUME AND ZERO ACCURACY.

These folks show up like:
“HEY EVERYONE I DON’T KNOW WHAT A WAVEFORM IS BUT LET ME EXPLAIN WHY YOU’RE ALL MIXING WRONG.”

They confidently declare masterpieces of misinformation such as:
• “A compressor makes your track longer.”
• “MIDI is just Wi-Fi for notes.”
• “You HAVE to record vocals in a bathroom or the frequencies won’t ripen.”

Then someone tries to correct them — gently, kindly, like telling a toddler not to put a fork in a socket — and they IMMEDIATELY go nuclear:
“WOW OKAY SORRY YOU CAN’T HANDLE MY PROFESSIONAL INSIGHTS I WATCHED HALF A YOUTUBE VIDEO ABOUT MIXING AND IT CHANGED MY LIFE.”

At first I figured it was just one guy with a cracked version of Audacity and a dream.
But no.
THEY ARE BREEDING.

Every time someone posts “How do I EQ vocals?” another one respawns with a paragraph of advice that could legally qualify as sonic terrorism.

(And again, not talking about anyone here — unless you’ve ever yelled “GAIN STAGING IS A MYTH” at a stranger and then rage-quit the thread.)

Needs more em-dashes, arrow-on-target emojis and "it's not X, it's Y..."

[revvy]

I f**king use em-dashes by choice 'cos I like them and now everyone at work — for it is there where I use them the most — thinks C-GPT is writing all my stuff.

Sucks!

[0degree]

anyone any experience of these, Philips Fidelio X2HR headphones? ...

I have them - for this price it's a no-brainer. I'd even consider getting the second pair

Cheers, do you find them useful for music production at all?

That's debatable - I use them mostly for music listening. I just like their sound signature. Here's some review worth taking a look:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/foru ... one.19250/

[VitaminD]

@Teksonik, sorry, you've lost me at "Here's what A.I. has to say" You preferred to believe it and not the several real people who shared their factual knowledge with you based on real-life experience, just for the sake of repeating yourself. Yep, we are not going further here. We'll use caution, thank you.

It's astonishing how many people (usually over 40 years old) I've seen lately that blindly trust whatever the AI bot generates. It reminds me of the older folks that blindly trusted their GPS when they were new. Some of them drove into lakes, off cliffs, and into houses..

Not sure I'd toss an age on it. I'm 52 and teach at a grad school. An unbelievable number of people in their 20's act as if AI is the holy grail of information. It's f**king bonkers.

I expect 'young and dumb' as we have minimal basis of reference at that age. But at 40+ we should know better.

[VitaminD]

@Teksonik, sorry, you've lost me at "Here's what A.I. has to say" You preferred to believe it and not the several real people who shared their factual knowledge with you based on real-life experience, just for the sake of repeating yourself. Yep, we are not going further here. We'll use caution, thank you.

It's astonishing how many people (usually over 40 years old) I've seen lately that blindly trust whatever the AI bot generates. It reminds me of the older folks that blindly trusted their GPS when they were new. Some of them drove into lakes, off cliffs, and into houses..

I've noticed a new type of commenter on music production discussion spaces who uses AI summaries to give a bunch of uninformed and often totally inaccurate information and then gets angry and hostile when that info is corrected or not appreciated. At first I thought it was just one random weirdo, but I've been seeing it so much lately. (This isn't referring to anyone in this convo, just a general off-topic thought)

It is quite frustrating/annoying yes. I saw that on a Cubase thread recently.

AI does make it easier to share a result, esp if you lack knowledge but are trying to be helpful, despite that result not helping. Even at work my boss has tried to help me by copy and pasting AI results when I'm trying to solve a difficult problem. The AI results tend to be wholly inaccurate for the real situation, so it ends up being a waste of time to follow through on. They mean well though.

We could use public service announcements not to blindly accept the AI answers. 'This is your brain, this is your brain on drugs' in the frying pan needs to be reused 'This is your brain, this is your brain accepting AI derived answers.'

[VitaminD]

I've noticed a new type of commenter on music production discussion spaces who uses AI summaries to give a bunch of uninformed and often totally inaccurate information and then gets angry and hostile when that info is corrected or not appreciated. At first I thought it was just one random weirdo, but I've been seeing it so much lately. (This isn't referring to anyone in this convo, just a general off-topic thought)

I asked AI to improve your comment.

• “MIDI is just Wi-Fi for notes.”

That could be an IDM album title.

[concealed identity]

@Teksonik, sorry, you've lost me at "Here's what A.I. has to say" You preferred to believe it and not the several real people who shared their factual knowledge with you based on real-life experience, just for the sake of repeating yourself. Yep, we are not going further here. We'll use caution, thank you.

It's astonishing how many people (usually over 40 years old) I've seen lately that blindly trust whatever the AI bot generates. It reminds me of the older folks that blindly trusted their GPS when they were new. Some of them drove into lakes, off cliffs, and into houses..

I've noticed a new type of commenter on music production discussion spaces who uses AI summaries to give a bunch of uninformed and often totally inaccurate information and then gets angry and hostile when that info is corrected or not appreciated. At first I thought it was just one random weirdo, but I've been seeing it so much lately. (This isn't referring to anyone in this convo, just a general off-topic thought)

AI does make it easier to share a result, esp if you lack knowledge but are trying to be helpful, despite that result not helping.

I think that's the crux of the issue; some people want to be helpful even if they lack knowledge, and others feel that if you lack knowledge you shouldn't be throwing useless information out there with confidence. So people get angry about it, and then the person doesn't understand why their attempt to be helpful is being met with contempt. I kind of see it as a symptom of a larger issue, where the age of social media and devaluing of expertise have created an atmosphere where everybody feels the need to share their opinion all the time no matter how little they know, and never stops to think that there are times where maybe that's not appropriate.

[GaryG]

That's debatable - I use them mostly for music listening. I just like their sound signature. Here's some review worth taking a look:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/foru ... one.19250/

Thanks