Acustica Audio intros SQUID-3: You don’t need make-up when the sound is this good
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- KVRAF
- 4222 posts since 1 Sep, 2016
I think this sounds very good. Certainly in the top tier of analog emulation synth plugins, IMO.
One instance in FL Studio adds about 12% to the CPU meter (Ryzen 7), and engaging Superstereo adds about another 10%. Superstereo is basically a unison and doesn't translate well to mono if you've got the stereo spread set wide. Too many presets use it and I find disabling it is almost always an improvement.
There is some jank. Crackling when adjusting mix sliders for the effects when it's playing. Sound cutting out if you set the Saturator mix to 100% when using the OTT algorithms. Presets not level matched. A bit more tabbing than I would have liked (you can't modulate the OSC to get a PWM sound without going to the MOD page, for example). I didn't find the modulation system particularly intuitive and I'm still not quite sure why it sometimes behaves the way it does.
I would have liked highpass/lowpass control on the delay and reverb, but that's a minor thing.
I'd like to see if Acustica address some of its issues before spending 120 quid on it.
One instance in FL Studio adds about 12% to the CPU meter (Ryzen 7), and engaging Superstereo adds about another 10%. Superstereo is basically a unison and doesn't translate well to mono if you've got the stereo spread set wide. Too many presets use it and I find disabling it is almost always an improvement.
There is some jank. Crackling when adjusting mix sliders for the effects when it's playing. Sound cutting out if you set the Saturator mix to 100% when using the OTT algorithms. Presets not level matched. A bit more tabbing than I would have liked (you can't modulate the OSC to get a PWM sound without going to the MOD page, for example). I didn't find the modulation system particularly intuitive and I'm still not quite sure why it sometimes behaves the way it does.
I would have liked highpass/lowpass control on the delay and reverb, but that's a minor thing.
I'd like to see if Acustica address some of its issues before spending 120 quid on it.
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- KVRist
- 372 posts since 22 Oct, 2014
The Poly patches absolutely slaughter Asio.
Is this something you are aware of and are in the process of resolving?
Is this something you are aware of and are in the process of resolving?
We are all a unique vibration in a beautiful symphony of infinite creation
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- KVRian
- 858 posts since 22 Jan, 2022
This shoe fits nicely:Uncle E wrote: Thu Dec 18, 2025 5:50 pm The buzzwords and hyperbole created confusion instead of clarity.
Jargon is the specialized vocabulary or terminology used by a particular profession, group, or field that often becomes confusing or meaningless to outsiders. While it aids clarity within a group, it can hinder understanding for others, sometimes being seen as overly complex, pretentious, or misleading speech.
LMAOUncle E wrote: Thu Dec 18, 2025 8:16 pm You might want to just call it convolution moving forward, or even Volterra Kernels, since Acustica fans know you for that.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 12002 posts since 12 May, 2008
Yeah I'd consider a bundle if it was cheap enough. I find these synths to have so much overlap that I'm not sure I want more than 1. I do like the sound a lot, but they have not been very good about fixing glitches and bugs. They added real values to the controls for automation for the VST and never bothered with the AU. Why? There are brutal cliks in Thing and Expanse when changing presets. I've noticed some inexplicable behavior in thing and expanse with certain settings, strange things like filter sweeps having multiple resonances coming in at different spots that seems like a glitch, and so on.mambo888 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:04 pm I would buy all 3 if there was a bundle at 150 USD, I know I’m quite cheap and not the target audience, I just like to play with soft synths.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 12002 posts since 12 May, 2008
So this guys says it seems to be modeled after a Subsequent-37. Seems so sound-wise and structure-wise, it does seem like an expanded one, as well as in the name.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 12002 posts since 12 May, 2008
So what's all the download content? What takes 1gb of harddrive space? I figured they were samples. Not critical, just curious.Acustica Community wrote: Thu Dec 18, 2025 7:34 pmWhen I previously referred to THING as “sample-based,” that wasn’t the best way to describe it. THING does not use sample playback as a sound source.Uncle E wrote: Thu Dec 18, 2025 5:50 pmFrom the original THING thread:Acustica Community wrote: Thu Dec 18, 2025 2:35 pm They all use synthesis except ALICE-9, which uses a hybrid approach (based on samples and synthesis). Sorry for the mistake.
Anyway, after going back over that old thread and looking at the installed file sizes, it seems to me this is just a messaging issue. The buzzwords and hyperbole created confusion instead of clarity.
What it actually uses are our convolution/sampling to model nonlinear behavior, alongside real-time oscillators, modulation, oversampling, and DSP. In other words, it’s a real-time synthesizer, with convolution used for behavior modeling, not for replaying recorded waveforms.
Additionally, some of the included effects (such as reverb and delay) utilize convolution internally, which is likely where the confusion originated; however, the synth engine itself is not sample-based in the traditional sense.
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- KVRAF
- 9846 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
Yeah, Diva is about 40MB or so
- KVRAF
- 20668 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
The comparison with the Subsequent-37 is at 12:55. I don't think they're that close but I preferred SQUID in this test. Might have to buy it now.Echoes in the Attic wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 11:23 pm So this guys says it seems to be modeled after a Subsequent-37. Seems so sound-wise and structure-wise, it does seem like an expanded one, as well as in the name.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 12002 posts since 12 May, 2008
I have to retract something here: I just downloaded the latest trial version of Expanse and actually the clicks don't happen anymore switching presets, so that's good to see!Echoes in the Attic wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 11:21 pmYeah I'd consider a bundle if it was cheap enough. I find these synths to have so much overlap that I'm not sure I want more than 1. I do like the sound a lot, but they have not been very good about fixing glitches and bugs. They added real values to the controls for automation for the VST and never bothered with the AU. Why? There are brutal cliks in Thing and Expanse when changing presets. I've noticed some inexplicable behavior in thing and expanse with certain settings, strange things like filter sweeps having multiple resonances coming in at different spots that seems like a glitch, and so on.mambo888 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:04 pm I would buy all 3 if there was a bundle at 150 USD, I know I’m quite cheap and not the target audience, I just like to play with soft synths.
Still only real parameters values on the VST3, not the AU. Would be nice if they fixed that. I still can't understand why they fixed that in the VST3 but not the AU.
Really amazing sounding synths though. I just realized also that the SQ3 filter is also in Expanse (as is the J-8 filter). I didn't realize what kind of filter that was until they released Squid-3.
Hey Acustica, any chance for a synth bundle at some point?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 322 posts since 24 Sep, 2019
I've suggested it to our team and it's something we'll probably do later on, great idea!
Hey Acustica, any chance for a synth bundle at some point?
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- KVRist
- 111 posts since 16 Aug, 2004
I will only be interested in a bundle of some sort, if ever. If I get an individual plugin, later I will have gas for the other one, and start regretting my decision. Just like with the Korg collection I bought a couple of their plugins instead of buying the whole collection, now I cannot buy the collection again without double-paying for everything.
When it was 1-2 synths only in the sales portfolio, the choice was very simple, though I was waiting for a deeper 50-75% discount which never happened. Now that you have 5-6 different synths available who can tell which one is the best to buy?
When the first one came out I was very impressed, I downloaded the demo, which still takes up 1gb on my hard drive, and compared extensively with Diva, turns out it sounded very nice, but when I switched to Diva that also sounded very nice... so at the end I couldn't make up my mind in this financial situation.
When it was 1-2 synths only in the sales portfolio, the choice was very simple, though I was waiting for a deeper 50-75% discount which never happened. Now that you have 5-6 different synths available who can tell which one is the best to buy?
When the first one came out I was very impressed, I downloaded the demo, which still takes up 1gb on my hard drive, and compared extensively with Diva, turns out it sounded very nice, but when I switched to Diva that also sounded very nice... so at the end I couldn't make up my mind in this financial situation.
- KVRAF
- 3812 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
That's a sharp 180. You were in full attack dog mode on page 1.Uncle E wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 12:02 am
The comparison with the Subsequent-37 is at 12:55. I don't think they're that close but I preferred SQUID in this test. Might have to buy it now.
Sounds alright to me. And what synth doesn't, in some way, use samples. At some point doesn't everything use a wavetable for the oscillator for efficiency?
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 12002 posts since 12 May, 2008
One thing that might work well for you guys is a custom “Pick 3” bundle for example like some devs do, where the user picks which synths out if a range to include. The advantage is that you don’t have to reprice as you add more new synths, or have a bundle that is no longer complete. The pick 3 bundle is always 3. Just an idea.Acustica Community wrote: Mon Dec 29, 2025 12:57 pmI've suggested it to our team and it's something we'll probably do later on, great idea!
Hey Acustica, any chance for a synth bundle at some point?
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