If you had to stick to one DAW, which one would it be?

[BBFG#]

Changed my vote from Bitwig to Other since Bitwig went into a tail spin of crashes and nag screen demands. Even the sandbox fails and often takes the audio engine and controllers with it. So I've used seven of the above options and even if Bitwig worked as well as it used to I would still be open to try anything offering something better.

"Other" is the future.

Oh, and right now I'm using Ableton and Cubase since they are least working stable.

[Yorrrrrr]

Bitwig Studio 5 or 6? Understandably if it's version 6. I'm having a few crashes in 6, but it's pre-release beta,so...I hope bugs will bear ironed out for release.

[Opaque]

Oh and Bitwig 6 when it is fully ready promises the ability to use automation as a composition tool in itself (which reminds me of Audiomulch), alongside and integrated with audio and MIDI.

In what way exactly? I've tried the Bitwig trial for some time and quite liked it, but stuck with Live as I'm happy with it so I haven't kept up with ver. 6, but you mentioning Audiomulch sparked an interest.
Is it a specific bitwig feature that is being introduced, that I can search for, or some kind of video where they're showing whatever it is you're talking about.

[Michael L]

So the selling point of a DAW is it being geeky?

Here in Kvristan 'geek' is the lingua franca.

And Bitwig is Mulab's big brother? Unfortunately the latter is a one man army who implements features that are according to one man's vision (90% guarantee for failure) that are no use to those who do professional work. Such a shame because the potential is there.

In the MuTools forum anyone can see the one-man-army responding every single day to feature requests from those who do professional work, yet MuLab is still not bloated.

The bloat-potential is there, but that one-man's-vision is for the interface to be minimal to free one's creative mind. Too many cooks . . . .

[Uncle Bastard]

I've used Tracktion from v1, went on to Reaper for a few years when Tracktion development stalled, then back, currently on 12 because my computer's too old for 13 and I'm not buying another until this one dies. The workflow is, for me, ideal.

[aMUSEd]

Oh and Bitwig 6 when it is fully ready promises the ability to use automation as a composition tool in itself (which reminds me of Audiomulch), alongside and integrated with audio and MIDI.

In what way exactly? I've tried the Bitwig trial for some time and quite liked it, but stuck with Live as I'm happy with it so I haven't kept up with ver. 6, but you mentioning Audiomulch sparked an interest.
Is it a specific bitwig feature that is being introduced, that I can search for, or some kind of video where they're showing whatever it is you're talking about.

It's not the same - Bitwig also has MIDI and audio as composition elements. In Audiomulch automation was the primary means of composing along the timeline, Bitwig 6 seems to be elevating automation from being simply a way to record knob movements to playing a more critical compositional role.

[legendCNCD]

When entering Ableton, I thought I'd miss the mixer view with plugins. True, I did, but the making of music was so much faster than with Cubase or Logic (especially logic :Q )

[twal]

Changed my vote from Bitwig to Other since Bitwig went into a tail spin of crashes and nag screen demands. Even the sandbox fails and often takes the audio engine and controllers with it. So I've used seven of the above options and even if Bitwig worked as well as it used to I would still be open to try anything offering something better.

"Other" is the future.

Oh, and right now I'm using Ableton and Cubase since they are least working stable.

Time to go back to REAPER, man...

[Crossinger]

“Other” could also mean “DAWless” and throwing the computer outta window.

[BBFG#]

Changed my vote from Bitwig to Other since Bitwig went into a tail spin of crashes and nag screen demands. Even the sandbox fails and often takes the audio engine and controllers with it. So I've used seven of the above options and even if Bitwig worked as well as it used to I would still be open to try anything offering something better.

"Other" is the future.

Oh, and right now I'm using Ableton and Cubase since they are least working stable.

Time to go back to REAPER, man...

Reaper is one of the seven. There are things I like about it as well as things I find annoying enough to not use it. But I still watch its development.

[seafire]

I've been using the same one for 25 years...

[VOODOO U]

So the selling point of a DAW is it being geeky?

Here in Kvristan 'geek' is the lingua franca.

That doesn't answer my question.

In the MuTools forum anyone can see the one-man-army responding every single day to feature requests from those who do professional work, yet MuLab is still not bloated.

Well it's good that it's not bloated but it still doesn't make certain implementations of features useful for my own needs.
And why would any professional choose to work with Mulab versus say, Bitwig or Ableton/M4L?
Yes, I'm focused on the modular aspect of it because i really can't see why anyone would choose Mulab for standard MIDI/audio recording and editing.
I'm sincerely curious to see if there's something I overlooked. I've demo'd it several times through the years and it never stood out worth buying. Then again the demo restriction is ridiculous. A time limit set for a.modular DAW?? That's a joke. It's difficult for a newbie to demo modular capabilities with a time limit (of course I'm talking about demoing the full version of Mulab as opposed to using a limited featured freebie).

When entering Ableton, I thought I'd miss the mixer view with plugins

You don't find it better in Ableton with the session view? You could elongate the faders to give them more of a traditional mixer readout.
Collapse the instrument/effects within each track and they all vertically stack neatly directly below ready to be edited with a double-click.

[Michael L]

So the selling point of a DAW is it being geeky?

Here in Kvristan 'geek' is the lingua franca.

That doesn't answer my question.

Yes it does. Lingua franca means every interaction-- including buying decisions-- is based on geekiness, which Oxford defines as "the quality of being knowledgeable about and obsessively interested in a particular subject, especially one that is technical or of specialist or niche interest."

In the MuTools forum anyone can see the one-man-army responding every single day to feature requests from those who do professional work, yet MuLab is still not bloated.

Well it's good that it's not bloated but it still doesn't make certain implementations of features useful for my own needs.

Well, its a fool's errand to guess the certain implementations of features that anyone needs. Everyone is so very different!

And why would any professional choose to work with Mulab versus say, Bitwig or Ableton/M4L?

Well, no such thing as "any professional" as we are so different, but I will give a use case for some professional.

Let's say you have a very clear musical idea. You do not want to go shopping at the M4L Mall or browse readymade stock plugins to find one close enough-- but which may send your idea off in a different direction. That's the strength of MuLab's modular + minimal approach. You can use the low-level modules to build what you need, while becoming even more focused on your idea.

Let's say you have a sound you really like, but you want to quickly play it on your keyboard with variations, e.g. every note has a different effect and layering; or you want to quickly slice the sound, and then sequence the slices but with many harmonic layers, stretches and pitches that are all visible in one track. Or you want to take cycles from that sample and build an instrument that has the specific sound you want, while not losing track of your musical idea. MuLab lets you do that very quickly and visually.

A strength of the "one-man-army" is in the details, e.g. session and arranger views interact side by side, that helps some professionals stay focused on their musical ideas.

Again, the choice of DAW is very individual, and is often based on a 'feeling' or preference impossible to communicate geekily in a Kvristan blog post!

I've demo'd it several times through the years and it never stood out worth buying. Then again the demo restriction is ridiculous

There are now two ways to demo, MuLab Demo and MuLab Free:
https://www.mutools.com/info/M9/docs/mu ... sions.html

[twal]

Changed my vote from Bitwig to Other since Bitwig went into a tail spin of crashes and nag screen demands. Even the sandbox fails and often takes the audio engine and controllers with it. So I've used seven of the above options and even if Bitwig worked as well as it used to I would still be open to try anything offering something better.

"Other" is the future.

Oh, and right now I'm using Ableton and Cubase since they are least working stable.

Time to go back to REAPER, man...

Reaper is one of the seven. There are things I like about it as well as things I find annoying enough to not use it. But I still watch its development.

What's annoying about it that made you stop using it if you don't mind me asking.

[4_the masses]

“Other” could also mean “DAWless” and throwing the computer outta window.

Or using Audacity