Halion 7 - what bread and butter is included? acoustic upright bass?

[aMUSEd]

I can't find a full instrument list or youtube demo of all the bread and butter instruments included with Halion 7 or Halion 7 Collection.

1. I watched a youtube of Simone playing Halion3 basses and it had acoustic upright bass patches. One patch is called Mello Acoustic Upright?. Does Halion 7 have these upright bass instruments as well? Or are these added with an addon (Absolute?)?

2.Does Steinberg make a high quality upright jazz bass? If so how to include it in Halion 7? They sure make a high quality Electric bass.

3. Does the Halion 7 30 day trial include the full 35gb library?

Also I've determined that Electric Bass instrument is the best sounding of them all. And I've listened to many.

4. Halion 7 does not include Electric Bass? and has to be purchased as an addon instrument?

5. Absolute doesn't included all instruments such as 4Knob Piano? Even though it's called "absolute"?

Thanks

Halion Sonic Factory Content has a patch called 'Mic'd Upright Bass"

Absolute 6 has an Instrument called Halion Symphonic Orchestra with several Double Basses.

I went out on a limb some time ago and just bought Absolute on Kvr from someone much cheaper than online stores without ever trying Halion or Absolute, which you can get on here because seems like someone always is selling it cheap.

Absolute has good points and bad points just like Kontakt or Falcon and all that jazz. I really, really, enjoy Absolute and Halion personally; and it has incredibly good quality. I would go with your intuition on what to purchase.

Which Halion version provides Halion Sonic Factory Content? Where on Steinberg.net does it even mention there is a Halion Sonic Factory Content available?

From what I understand is that all versions of Cubase 15 come with the free "Halion Sonic 7" player which says "comes without any sample content", as indicted by the Comparison chart of Halion 7.

You can however download 9 free instruments for the free Halion Sonic 7: X-Stream, Taped Vibes, Navia Harp Free.....to Engine Roar. Except for the two pianos none sounds like they have no bread and butter instruments.

I then found that you can try/buy Halion 7 and Halion 7 Collection both of which include 15 libraries from FM Lab, Tales...to World Instruments This appears to include brass, organ and pianos but I don't know if any bass guitar/upright is in these 15?

I found the Explore All Instruments page that offers many other instrument libraries including bread and butter that you can purchase. These are paid offerings that will play in any version of Halion. I don't see any upright bass in these.

Again, how to download Halion Sonic Factory Content that has the upright bass? I'm thinking it might have been included in a previous version of Halion that maybe you have? And not in 7 anymore? I have no idea.

The full version of Halion 7 comes with the Halion Sonic Factory Content - which is actually more than the Halion library itself has. If you own Halion you also own Halionsonic (which is just a Player version of Halion). It's a bit confusing but I presume the reason is you can buy Halionsonic along with the Halionsonic library as a cheaper pathway into Halion if you don't need the full sampler/instrument building capabilities of the full version (bit like how you can buy the Kontakt library separate and use it with Kontakt player). If you own Halion full then I tend to treat it all as one library.

[IvyBirds]

Which Halion version provides Halion Sonic Factory Content? Where on Steinberg.net does it even mention there is a Halion Sonic Factory Content available?

https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instrumen ... -editions/

Think of it this way. Halion Sonic 7 is a preset plugin. It's for people who want all of the presets from all of the individual HALion7 instruments and just want to tweak them

The individual instruments are just collections of samples with on screen Macros to tweak each preset. The exception being FM LAB which does FM programming

The full version of HALion7 has all of that. But also has extra things. It gives you full access to all synthesis engines (analog, wavetable, spectral, FM, granular) and allows you create new patches from scratch, make new samples, combine various Synthesis types in the same patch, has a deep and powerful modulation matrix, allows you to customize your on screen interface, allows you to use things like Wavetables as LFOs in your own patches

The cost for the full version of HALion7 isn't really all that higher than the cost for HALion Sonic 7 Collection. If you think you will ever want to roll your own patches and do sound design get the full version






From what I understand is that all versions of Cubase 15 come with the free "Halion Sonic 7" player which says "comes without any sample content", as indicted by the Comparison chart of Halion 7.

You can however download 9 free instruments for the free Halion Sonic 7: X-Stream, Taped Vibes, Navia Harp Free.....to Engine Roar. Except for the two pianos none sounds like they have no bread and butter instruments.

I then found that you can try/buy Halion 7 and Halion 7 Collection both of which include 15 libraries from FM Lab, Tales...to World Instruments This appears to include brass, organ and pianos but I don't know if any bass guitar/upright is in these 15?

I found the Explore All Instruments page that offers many other instrument libraries including bread and butter that you can purchase. These are paid offerings that will play in any version of Halion. I don't see any upright bass in these.

Again, how to download Halion Sonic Factory Content that has the upright bass? This must be referring to the Halion Full or Collection?

If I download Cubase 15 trial it will only have Halion Sonic 7 and no instruments to play except the limited 9 free which only has special pianos? I would then need to download a trial of Halion 7 (full) or Collection to play any bread and butter instruments?
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[RexXx]

Cubase (all editions) comes with "HALion Sonic 7" and "HALion Sonic Selection" sound library. A 3.3GB library of 1100+ instruments/presets (GM presets included).
"HALion Sonic Selection" sound library is also available for Cubasis iOS/Android as in-app purchase.

A preset called 'Mic'd Upright Bass" is not in the "HALion Sonic Selection" sound library.
Edit: But it contains "SR Upright Bass", "Modern Jazz Upright" and "Accented Double Bass".

[Mike777]

Which Halion version provides Halion Sonic Factory Content? Where on Steinberg.net does it even mention there is a Halion Sonic Factory Content available?

https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instrumen ... -editions/

Think of it this way. Halion Sonic 7 is a preset plugin. It's for people who want all of the presets from all of the individual HALion7 instruments and just want to tweak them

The individual instruments are just collections of samples with on screen Macros to tweak each preset. The exception being FM LAB which does FM programming

The full version of HALion7 has all of that. But also has extra things. It gives you full access to all synthesis engines (analog, wavetable, spectral, FM, granular) and allows you create new patches from scratch, make new samples, combine various Synthesis types in the same patch, has a deep and powerful modulation matrix, allows you to customize your on screen interface, allows you to use things like Wavetables as LFOs in your own patches

The cost for the full version of HALion7 isn't really all that higher than the cost for HALion Sonic 7 Collection. If you think you will ever want to roll your own patches and do sound design get the full version

I have seen the comparison link you posted:
https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instrumen ... -editions/

It has a chart that compares features of HALion 7, HALion Sonic Collection 7 and HALion Sonic 7. On the "Sound Content included" row there are check marks for HALion 7, HALion Sonic Collection 7. However HALion Sonic 7 does not have a checkmark. Indicating HALion Sonic 7 does not have included sounds, according to that comparison chart.

My question is still if Halion Sonic 7 includes any instrument sounds to play?

I asked AI and it found that
"HALion Sonic – Versatile workstation with Sonic Selection for a wide range of sounds" from thebeatcommunity.com

I then asked AI: "does HALion Sonic 7 include sonic selection?"

AI answer:
Halion Sonic 7 does not include Sonic Selection. Halion Sonic 7 is a free player designed to run sample libraries, synthesizers, and hybrid instruments created with the full Halion 7 software, but it does not come with any sample content.
The term "Halion Sonic Selection" refers to a separate collection of General MIDI-based instruments that are available for download through Cubase or Dorico, not as part of the Halion Sonic 7 player itself

The only place Stienberg mentions Halion Sonic Selection is in their Cubasis 3 user guide and is described as "HALion Sonic Selection (in-app purchase)" and "Cubasis comes with free instruments". Cubasis is for Android, IOS etc

[IvyBirds]

Which Halion version provides Halion Sonic Factory Content? Where on Steinberg.net does it even mention there is a Halion Sonic Factory Content available?

https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instrumen ... -editions/

Think of it this way. Halion Sonic 7 is a preset plugin. It's for people who want all of the presets from all of the individual HALion7 instruments and just want to tweak them

The individual instruments are just collections of samples with on screen Macros to tweak each preset. The exception being FM LAB which does FM programming

The full version of HALion7 has all of that. But also has extra things. It gives you full access to all synthesis engines (analog, wavetable, spectral, FM, granular) and allows you create new patches from scratch, make new samples, combine various Synthesis types in the same patch, has a deep and powerful modulation matrix, allows you to customize your on screen interface, allows you to use things like Wavetables as LFOs in your own patches

The cost for the full version of HALion7 isn't really all that higher than the cost for HALion Sonic 7 Collection. If you think you will ever want to roll your own patches and do sound design get the full version

I have seen the comparison link you posted:
https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instrumen ... -editions/

It has a chart that compares features of HALion 7, HALion Sonic Collection 7 and HALion Sonic 7. On the "Sound Content included" row there are check marks for HALion 7, HALion Sonic Collection 7. However HALion Sonic 7 does not have a checkmark. Indicating HALion Sonic 7 does not have included sounds, according to that comparison chart.

My question is still if Halion Sonic 7 includes any instrument sounds to play?

I asked AI and it found that
"HALion Sonic – Versatile workstation with Sonic Selection for a wide range of sounds" from thebeatcommunity.com

I then asked AI: "does HALion Sonic 7 include sonic selection?"

AI answer:
Halion Sonic 7 does not include Sonic Selection. Halion Sonic 7 is a free player designed to run sample libraries, synthesizers, and hybrid instruments created with the full Halion 7 software, but it does not come with any sample content.
The term "Halion Sonic Selection" refers to a separate collection of General MIDI-based instruments that are available for download through Cubase or Dorico, not as part of the Halion Sonic 7 player itself

The only place Stienberg mentions Halion Sonic Selection is in their Cubasis 3 user guide and is described as "HALion Sonic Selection (in-app purchase)" and "Cubasis comes with free instruments". Cubasis is for Android, IOS etc

HALion Sonic 7 is just the player. It's free and anyone can download it. Halion Sonic 7 in and if itself doesn't contain any sample libraries, but it does contain a very basic VA synth

If you go to this page

https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/halion/sonic/

You can download it for free, as well as multiple libraries that are also free that will run inside of it

Cubasis is an iOS and Android App. They also have a version of HALion7 for iOS and Android that comes with a smaller sample set. That is not the same

Steinberg sells individual libraries for HALion Sonic 7. Again HALion Sonic 7 doesn't include any sample libraries, You either have to buy them individually or download the free ones. They also sell a bundle of all the libraries called HALion Sonic 7 Collection. That runs inside of the free HALion Sonic 7 and includes all of the HALion Libraries

If you buy Cubase in any version you will also get an included small library of mainly bread and butter sounds that will play inside of the HALion Sonic 7 free player

The key to remember is everytime you see the word "Sonic" it's always referring to free HALion Sonic Player and you are just buying it downloading content for that

If you get the full version of HALion7, they drop the term "Sonic" entirely. It has all of the instruments and libraries that are available for Sonic and you can use them in different ways than you can in Sonic because you have full control over all of the synth engines. You also get a flow blown sampling workstation that can record and manipulate samples, or import WAV files from your computer. You can turn them into Wavetables, use them in a granular engine, or load them into the spectral synth and change them.

Beyond those things in the HALion Ecosystem Steinberg makes multiple other plugins. Steinberg has a giant bundle of all their plugins called "Absolute" which also contains extra samples content

So to recap in the Steinberg universe you get the following

1.)Free tier
Halion Sonic 7 player and free libraries for it. If you don't want to spend any money and want some good sounds this is all free

ala carte tier
These are individual libraries/instruments that work inside of HALion Sonic. You buy them individually. This would be good for people who just want something specific

preset tweakers tier
This is the HALion Sonic 7 Collection. It includes all of the presets, libraries and instruments. It's good for people who just want to tweak presets and don't want the full blown synth engines and all the sampling and sample processing tools

sound design tier
This is the full blown version of HALion7. This is for people who want to do deep sound design, who want to make and manipulate their own samples and even make their own instruments

absolute tier
This has every plugin Steinberg makes and lots of extra content for HALion7

[Mike777]

Which Halion version provides Halion Sonic Factory Content? Where on Steinberg.net does it even mention there is a Halion Sonic Factory Content available?

https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instrumen ... -editions/

Think of it this way. Halion Sonic 7 is a preset plugin. It's for people who want all of the presets from all of the individual HALion7 instruments and just want to tweak them

The individual instruments are just collections of samples with on screen Macros to tweak each preset. The exception being FM LAB which does FM programming

The full version of HALion7 has all of that. But also has extra things. It gives you full access to all synthesis engines (analog, wavetable, spectral, FM, granular) and allows you create new patches from scratch, make new samples, combine various Synthesis types in the same patch, has a deep and powerful modulation matrix, allows you to customize your on screen interface, allows you to use things like Wavetables as LFOs in your own patches

The cost for the full version of HALion7 isn't really all that higher than the cost for HALion Sonic 7 Collection. If you think you will ever want to roll your own patches and do sound design get the full version

I have seen the comparison link you posted:
https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instrumen ... -editions/

It has a chart that compares features of HALion 7, HALion Sonic Collection 7 and HALion Sonic 7. On the "Sound Content included" row there are check marks for HALion 7, HALion Sonic Collection 7. However HALion Sonic 7 does not have a checkmark. Indicating HALion Sonic 7 does not have included sounds, according to that comparison chart.

My question is still if Halion Sonic 7 includes any instrument sounds to play?

I asked AI and it found that
"HALion Sonic – Versatile workstation with Sonic Selection for a wide range of sounds" from thebeatcommunity.com

I then asked AI: "does HALion Sonic 7 include sonic selection?"

AI answer:
Halion Sonic 7 does not include Sonic Selection. Halion Sonic 7 is a free player designed to run sample libraries, synthesizers, and hybrid instruments created with the full Halion 7 software, but it does not come with any sample content.
The term "Halion Sonic Selection" refers to a separate collection of General MIDI-based instruments that are available for download through Cubase or Dorico, not as part of the Halion Sonic 7 player itself

The only place Stienberg mentions Halion Sonic Selection is in their Cubasis 3 user guide and is described as "HALion Sonic Selection (in-app purchase)" and "Cubasis comes with free instruments". Cubasis is for Android, IOS etc

HALion Sonic 7 is just the player. It's free and anyone can download it. Halion Sonic 7 in and if itself doesn't contain any sample libraries, but it does contain a very basic VA synth

If you go to this page

https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/halion/sonic/

You can download it for free, as well as multiple libraries that are also free that will run inside of it

Cubasis is an iOS and Android App. They also have a version of HALion7 for iOS and Android that comes with a smaller sample set. That is not the same

Steinberg sells individual libraries for HALion Sonic 7. Again HALion Sonic 7 doesn't include any sample libraries, You either have to buy them individually or download the free ones. They also sell a bundle of all the libraries called HALion Sonic 7 Collection. That runs inside of the free HALion Sonic 7 and includes all of the HALion Libraries

If you buy Cubase in any version you will also get an included small library of mainly bread and butter sounds that will play inside of the HALion Sonic 7 free player

The key to remember is everytime you see the word "Sonic" it's always referring to free HALion Sonic Player and you are just buying it downloading content for that

If you get the full version of HALion7, they drop the term "Sonic" entirely. It has all of the instruments and libraries that are available for Sonic and you can use them in different ways than you can in Sonic because you have full control over all of the synth engines. You also get a flow blown sampling workstation that can record and manipulate samples, or import WAV files from your computer. You can turn them into Wavetables, use them in a granular engine, or load them into the spectral synth and change them.

Beyond those things in the HALion Ecosystem Steinberg makes multiple other plugins. Steinberg has a giant bundle of all their plugins called "Absolute" which also contains extra samples content

So to recap in the Steinberg universe you get the following

1.)Free tier
Halion Sonic 7 player and free libraries for it. If you don't want to spend any money and want some good sounds this is all free

ala carte tier
These are individual libraries/instruments that work inside of HALion Sonic. You buy them individually. This would be good for people who just want something specific

etc..

Thankyou for your help! When you wrote:

If you buy Cubase in any version you will also get an included small library of mainly bread and butter sounds that will play inside of the HALion Sonic 7 free player.

Is there any link that mentions this for Cubase 15? I can find none.

I also know that you can download these 9 free libraries for all versions of Halion:
X-Stream
Taped Vibes
Navia Harp Free
LoFi Piano
Colors Free
Alto Glockenspiel Essential
Guitar Harmonics Essential
Novel Piano
Engine Roar

Except for the pianos these do not sound like bread and butter instruments. So there is ALSO an included "small library of mainly bread and butter sounds" as wellthat is included with Cubase 15 and plays in the free Halion Sonic 7? That is not mentioned anywhere (that I can find).

Thanks again!

[IvyBirds]

Which Halion version provides Halion Sonic Factory Content? Where on Steinberg.net does it even mention there is a Halion Sonic Factory Content available?

https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instrumen ... -editions/

Think of it this way. Halion Sonic 7 is a preset plugin. It's for people who want all of the presets from all of the individual HALion7 instruments and just want to tweak them

The individual instruments are just collections of samples with on screen Macros to tweak each preset. The exception being FM LAB which does FM programming

The full version of HALion7 has all of that. But also has extra things. It gives you full access to all synthesis engines (analog, wavetable, spectral, FM, granular) and allows you create new patches from scratch, make new samples, combine various Synthesis types in the same patch, has a deep and powerful modulation matrix, allows you to customize your on screen interface, allows you to use things like Wavetables as LFOs in your own patches

The cost for the full version of HALion7 isn't really all that higher than the cost for HALion Sonic 7 Collection. If you think you will ever want to roll your own patches and do sound design get the full version

I have seen the comparison link you posted:
https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instrumen ... -editions/

It has a chart that compares features of HALion 7, HALion Sonic Collection 7 and HALion Sonic 7. On the "Sound Content included" row there are check marks for HALion 7, HALion Sonic Collection 7. However HALion Sonic 7 does not have a checkmark. Indicating HALion Sonic 7 does not have included sounds, according to that comparison chart.

My question is still if Halion Sonic 7 includes any instrument sounds to play?

I asked AI and it found that
"HALion Sonic – Versatile workstation with Sonic Selection for a wide range of sounds" from thebeatcommunity.com

I then asked AI: "does HALion Sonic 7 include sonic selection?"

AI answer:
Halion Sonic 7 does not include Sonic Selection. Halion Sonic 7 is a free player designed to run sample libraries, synthesizers, and hybrid instruments created with the full Halion 7 software, but it does not come with any sample content.
The term "Halion Sonic Selection" refers to a separate collection of General MIDI-based instruments that are available for download through Cubase or Dorico, not as part of the Halion Sonic 7 player itself

The only place Stienberg mentions Halion Sonic Selection is in their Cubasis 3 user guide and is described as "HALion Sonic Selection (in-app purchase)" and "Cubasis comes with free instruments". Cubasis is for Android, IOS etc

HALion Sonic 7 is just the player. It's free and anyone can download it. Halion Sonic 7 in and if itself doesn't contain any sample libraries, but it does contain a very basic VA synth

If you go to this page

https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/halion/sonic/

You can download it for free, as well as multiple libraries that are also free that will run inside of it

Cubasis is an iOS and Android App. They also have a version of HALion7 for iOS and Android that comes with a smaller sample set. That is not the same

Steinberg sells individual libraries for HALion Sonic 7. Again HALion Sonic 7 doesn't include any sample libraries, You either have to buy them individually or download the free ones. They also sell a bundle of all the libraries called HALion Sonic 7 Collection. That runs inside of the free HALion Sonic 7 and includes all of the HALion Libraries

If you buy Cubase in any version you will also get an included small library of mainly bread and butter sounds that will play inside of the HALion Sonic 7 free player

The key to remember is everytime you see the word "Sonic" it's always referring to free HALion Sonic Player and you are just buying it downloading content for that

If you get the full version of HALion7, they drop the term "Sonic" entirely. It has all of the instruments and libraries that are available for Sonic and you can use them in different ways than you can in Sonic because you have full control over all of the synth engines. You also get a flow blown sampling workstation that can record and manipulate samples, or import WAV files from your computer. You can turn them into Wavetables, use them in a granular engine, or load them into the spectral synth and change them.

Beyond those things in the HALion Ecosystem Steinberg makes multiple other plugins. Steinberg has a giant bundle of all their plugins called "Absolute" which also contains extra samples content

So to recap in the Steinberg universe you get the following

1.)Free tier
Halion Sonic 7 player and free libraries for it. If you don't want to spend any money and want some good sounds this is all free

ala carte tier
These are individual libraries/instruments that work inside of HALion Sonic. You buy them individually. This would be good for people who just want something specific

etc..

Thankyou for your help! When you wrote:

If you buy Cubase in any version you will also get an included small library of mainly bread and butter sounds that will play inside of the HALion Sonic 7 free player.

Is there any link that mentions this for Cubase 15? I can find none.

I also know that you can download these 9 free libraries for all versions of Halion:
X-Stream
Taped Vibes
Navia Harp Free
LoFi Piano
Colors Free
Alto Glockenspiel Essential
Guitar Harmonics Essential
Novel Piano
Engine Roar

Except for the pianos these do not sound like bread and butter instruments. So there is ALSO an included "small library of mainly bread and butter sounds" as wellthat is included with Cubase 15 and plays in the free Halion Sonic 7? That is not mentioned anywhere (that I can find).

Thanks again!

If you own Cubase 15 you install it from the Steinberg Installation Manager, one of things that will show up is HALion Sonic Selection.

You can also download it here if you have Cubase 15

https://o.steinberg.net/en/support/down ... se_15.html

It's not automatically downloaded as most Cubase users have no use for it, because they already own some kind of paid version of HALion7, or HALion Sonic

Also note these samples are different than the free libraries anyone can download. They are bread and butter sounds designed to get practically any music production in any genre up and running inside of Cubase

Also note it's included with every version of Cubase even the $79 version, and the free version that comes with Yamaha, Stenberg, and Zoom products. Also note that Yamaha owns Steinberg and is in the process of rebranding Steinberg's excellent USB interfaces into Yamaha ones so you might find a deal on one of you need an interface and get a version of Cubase for free

[Mike777]

Which Halion version provides Halion Sonic Factory Content? Where on Steinberg.net does it even mention there is a Halion Sonic Factory Content available?

https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instrumen ... -editions/

Think of it this way. Halion Sonic 7 is a preset plugin. It's for people who want all of the presets from all of the individual HALion7 instruments and just want to tweak them

The individual instruments are just collections of samples with on screen Macros to tweak each preset. The exception being FM LAB which does FM programming

The full version of HALion7 has all of that. But also has extra things. It gives you full access to all synthesis engines (analog, wavetable, spectral, FM, granular) and allows you create new patches from scratch, make new samples, combine various Synthesis types in the same patch, has a deep and powerful modulation matrix, allows you to customize your on screen interface, allows you to use things like Wavetables as LFOs in your own patches

The cost for the full version of HALion7 isn't really all that higher than the cost for HALion Sonic 7 Collection. If you think you will ever want to roll your own patches and do sound design get the full version

I have seen the comparison link you posted:
https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instrumen ... -editions/

It has a chart that compares features of HALion 7, HALion Sonic Collection 7 and HALion Sonic 7. On the "Sound Content included" row there are check marks for HALion 7, HALion Sonic Collection 7. However HALion Sonic 7 does not have a checkmark. Indicating HALion Sonic 7 does not have included sounds, according to that comparison chart.

My question is still if Halion Sonic 7 includes any instrument sounds to play?

I asked AI and it found that
"HALion Sonic – Versatile workstation with Sonic Selection for a wide range of sounds" from thebeatcommunity.com

I then asked AI: "does HALion Sonic 7 include sonic selection?"

AI answer:
Halion Sonic 7 does not include Sonic Selection. Halion Sonic 7 is a free player designed to run sample libraries, synthesizers, and hybrid instruments created with the full Halion 7 software, but it does not come with any sample content.
The term "Halion Sonic Selection" refers to a separate collection of General MIDI-based instruments that are available for download through Cubase or Dorico, not as part of the Halion Sonic 7 player itself

The only place Stienberg mentions Halion Sonic Selection is in their Cubasis 3 user guide and is described as "HALion Sonic Selection (in-app purchase)" and "Cubasis comes with free instruments". Cubasis is for Android, IOS etc

HALion Sonic 7 is just the player. It's free and anyone can download it. Halion Sonic 7 in and if itself doesn't contain any sample libraries, but it does contain a very basic VA synth

If you go to this page

https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/halion/sonic/

You can download it for free, as well as multiple libraries that are also free that will run inside of it

Cubasis is an iOS and Android App. They also have a version of HALion7 for iOS and Android that comes with a smaller sample set. That is not the same

Steinberg sells individual libraries for HALion Sonic 7. Again HALion Sonic 7 doesn't include any sample libraries, You either have to buy them individually or download the free ones. They also sell a bundle of all the libraries called HALion Sonic 7 Collection. That runs inside of the free HALion Sonic 7 and includes all of the HALion Libraries

If you buy Cubase in any version you will also get an included small library of mainly bread and butter sounds that will play inside of the HALion Sonic 7 free player

The key to remember is everytime you see the word "Sonic" it's always referring to free HALion Sonic Player and you are just buying it downloading content for that

If you get the full version of HALion7, they drop the term "Sonic" entirely. It has all of the instruments and libraries that are available for Sonic and you can use them in different ways than you can in Sonic because you have full control over all of the synth engines. You also get a flow blown sampling workstation that can record and manipulate samples, or import WAV files from your computer. You can turn them into Wavetables, use them in a granular engine, or load them into the spectral synth and change them.

Beyond those things in the HALion Ecosystem Steinberg makes multiple other plugins. Steinberg has a giant bundle of all their plugins called "Absolute" which also contains extra samples content

So to recap in the Steinberg universe you get the following

1.)Free tier
Halion Sonic 7 player and free libraries for it. If you don't want to spend any money and want some good sounds this is all free

ala carte tier
These are individual libraries/instruments that work inside of HALion Sonic. You buy them individually. This would be good for people who just want something specific

etc..

Thankyou for your help! When you wrote:

If you buy Cubase in any version you will also get an included small library of mainly bread and butter sounds that will play inside of the HALion Sonic 7 free player.

Is there any link that mentions this for Cubase 15? I can find none.

I also know that you can download these 9 free libraries for all versions of Halion:
X-Stream
Taped Vibes
Navia Harp Free
LoFi Piano
Colors Free
Alto Glockenspiel Essential
Guitar Harmonics Essential
Novel Piano
Engine Roar

Except for the pianos these do not sound like bread and butter instruments. So there is ALSO an included "small library of mainly bread and butter sounds" as wellthat is included with Cubase 15 and plays in the free Halion Sonic 7? That is not mentioned anywhere (that I can find).

Thanks again!

If you own Cubase 15 you install it from the Steinberg Installation Manager, one of things that will show up is HALion Sonic Selection.

You can also download it here if you have Cubase 15

https://o.steinberg.net/en/support/down ... se_15.html

It's not automatically downloaded as most Cubase users have no use for it, because they already own some kind of paid version of HALion7, or HALion Sonic

Also note these samples are different than the free libraries anyone can download. They are bread and butter sounds designed to get practically any music production in any genre up and running inside of Cubase

Also note it's included with every version of Cubase even the $79 version, and the free version that comes with Yamaha, Stenberg, and Zoom products. Also note that Yamaha owns Steinberg and is in the process of rebranding Steinberg's excellent USB interfaces into Yamaha ones so you might find a deal on one of you need an interface and get a version of Cubase for free

Thanks, I see that HALion Sonic Selection is a 3.3gb download from that link to download products, first I've seen Sonic Selection mentioned anywhere on their site.

The reason I kept asking is because it states on the HALion Sonic page that "Although HALion Sonic 7 comes without any sample content, you can find several free additional instruments on this page". And I only see the 9 free unique type instruments. Now I know where to go if I need Sonic Selection- thanks!