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[jens]

Greg however thinks his post makes any sense...

[jens]

Ixox,

I'm referring to the recording a song while your 'loop' loops thing. I don't see what the point of that is.

Looped audio recording, which is what I think you think I'm referring to, is my NUMBER ONE needed thing.

I suspect you think I'm talking about something about which I'm not talking, while in fact I'm talking about something different which is nearly useless.

[jens]

acid style loop recording

would you be so kind as to define that again?

[jens]

La la la...

People still not getting it...

La la...

<covers ears and bangs head>

that's maybe because you're trying to make two different things out of (basically) one and the same...

[Lunch Money]

Greg however thinks his post makes any sense...

Wrong. I freely and readily acknowledge that there seem to be insurmountable barriers of communication. People are responding without actually reminding or repeating what it is that they're responding to, which means that some people are talking about Acid style loop recording, others are talking about Acid style loop manipulation, and still others aren't sure what the difference is but are responding anyhow.

Jens, my post made perfect sense, and you responded to the wrong thing, or at least in an unclear way. Don't make the mistake of thinking that people understand what the hell YOU'RE on about half the time. That would be a grave error, indeed!

[Lunch Money]

Ixox,

I'm referring to the recording a song while your 'loop' loops thing. I don't see what the point of that is.

Looped audio recording, which is what I think you think I'm referring to, is my NUMBER ONE needed thing.

I suspect you think I'm talking about something about which I'm not talking, while in fact I'm talking about something different which is nearly useless.

Notice that "looped recording" doesn't have anything to do with Acid, ffs. My post made sense.

[jtxx000]

acid style loop recording

would you be so kind as to define that again?

playback loops but recording continues linearly.

[Lunch Money]

jtxx is making sense. I think he and I understand what we're talking about. I simply disagree that both would be useful. I don't see the usefulness of the above quoted feature, while he does. We both agree that Acid-style timestretch/using loops on the timeline/however you want to define it would be useful.

They are NOT one and the same thing, as you think you've cleverly deduced, Jens. Somebody has missed the point, and it's not one of us.

Greg

[jens]

acid style loop recording

would you be so kind as to define that again?

playback loops but recording continues linearly.

and here's the mistake both you and Greg are making -
recording always continues linearly because a sample is data stored in a linear way...

how the sequencer then is presenting the data is another thing and there a nearly as many different ways as there are sequencers.... - but the thing the sequencer is doing while loop-recording is done is always the same thing

[jens]

Somebody has missed the point, and it's not one of us.

Greg

you are right - it's not one of you




- it's both of you

[Lunch Money]

I don't think either of us would disagree with what you said... [edit: or maybe I would... it's hard to say because it's still so vague and unclear] and you definitely missed the communications boat; mind you, that's not uncommon for you.

X2

[jens]

I don't think either of us would disagree with what you said... [edit: or maybe I would... it's hard to say because it's still so vague and unclear] and you definitely missed the communications boat; mind you, that's not uncommon for you.

X2

nope - it's still you who's 'missing the communications boat' and everyone can read what you wrote and check that I'm right about this...

Here's the verdict:

1. 'audio-loop recording' and 'acid-style-loops' are two totally different and completely unrelkated things

2. There's only one type of 'audio-loop-recording' and it works like this: the sequencer repeats a part of the arrangement several times (until you stop recording) while he records an audio file.

3. Above mentioned premise leads to the following:
There is no such thing as 'Acid-style loop-recording' which would intrinsically differ
from the loop-recording which various other sequencers offer.

triple

[cbit]

i understand what lunch money means, and it doesn't seem complicated I agree, in that i also don't see the usefulness of that kind of looping (ie looping-one-part-while-linearly-recording-another).. the same effect can be achieved simply by existing means, making that suggestion seem a bit redundant.

[djsubject]

i understand what lunch money means, and it doesn't seem complicated I agree, in that i also don't see the usefulness of that kind of looping (ie looping-one-part-while-linearly-recording-another).. the same effect can be achieved simply by existing means, making that suggestion seem a bit redundant.

NO! its not redundent? do you work with vox?? if yes do thay voyce after some sort of arrangment? then do u fin yr mix & arrangment around the vox?


i do so i love this new add-on to T2

acid style looping? (i think thay mean a loop will auto fit yr tempo) this would be verry nice aswel!!

[jens]

Once again:

It's always the same - when you e.g. are loop-recording
with Cubase SX it shows you only a recording-snippet (a clip) of the lenght of the looped region. Then when you right click the clip you can choose from as many takes as there have been repetitions (loops) during the recording.

But (and this is a big but) Cubase has recorded only one linear sample. The way in which Cubase presents you the different takes is technically an auto-arrange function, is non-destructive and has nothing to do with the recorded sample itself. It's just a different way of presenting the sample.
Sonar 1-3 e.g. created a new track for each loop/take or optionally put the takes all on top of each other. - But then you could slip edit the first take of course and voilá: there's your whole recorded sample again - just like in Acid. (the same goes for SX)