Zebra 3 Public Beta 2 Revision 20552

[Urs]

feature request; more intermittent steps for the mappers. Tbh, i would just want to see all steps being available from 1 to 128

I will *try* to do that.

[exmatproton]

feature request; more intermittent steps for the mappers. Tbh, i would just want to see all steps being available from 1 to 128

I will *try* to do that.

awfully kind of you, my good sir

[NAD]

Sine to Double Sine.h2p.zip

Crossfade Two Partials.zip

Thank you both! Those definitely do the trick.

I was thinking about a "true" crossfade morph that doesn't use the splines but directly crossfades the results

Yes please!

[JoeLowery215]

Urs am I mistaken that there’s no diode or asymmetrical type of distortion? I know Z2 had different OD’s for the filters..

Also slightly unrelated but how was the synth intro done on your recent videos? The “VHS” tape effect is nice and what synth was used? Ha!

Thanks

[jrgillam]

Hi Urs, have you considered adding a clock/lfo built into the mappers? It's cool that you can feed them external sources but I think it would greatly improve their usability to be able to tempo/free sync them without an external input. If one's LFOs are used up or doing something else it's kind of fiddly to get the mappers to scan as desired.

[Urs]

Urs am I mistaken that there’s no diode or asymmetrical type of distortion? I know Z2 had different OD’s for the filters..

The analogue modelled filters have various asymmetric types of distortion.

Also slightly unrelated but how was the synth intro done on your recent videos? The “VHS” tape effect is nice and what synth was used? Ha!

Thanks

What synth was used?

As for video editing, I think it's always the latest daVinci Resolve.

[Urs]

Hi Urs, have you considered adding a clock/lfo built into the mappers? It's cool that you can feed them external sources but I think it would greatly improve their usability to be able to tempo/free sync them without an external input. If one's LFOs are used up or doing something else it's kind of fiddly to get the mappers to scan as desired.

Clocks are part of our anticipated arpeggiator and sequencer update, maybe V3.1 or V3.2

[ThoughtExperiment]

This is frustrating. Here's my problem:

There's a factory preset which I particularly like. Let's say it's 'A New Dawn', the first one in the Public Beta Collection folder.

It has a fair amount of modulation going on, looking at the Mod Matrix. I like what the mod wheel does. I like what CtrlA does. And CtrlB. And CtrlC. And CtrlD. All it needs a little bit of Vibrato here and there, in the emotive bits. OK, we have Vibrato too. But, oh dear, it's mapped to 'Pressure'. I have a keyboard and a controller, neither of which is equipped with Aftertouch.

So what's the solution? I don't want to 'steal' CtrlA, B, C, or D because I like what they're doing. Why aren't there more CC options to choose from in the list of sources in the mod Matrix?

[Urs]

Why aren't there more CC options to choose from in the list of sources in the mod Matrix?

Because for 25 years people were just fine with 2 CC options. Now we added two more, and suddenly it is not enough... that is something I can't really wrap my head around...

Here's an idea: Why don't you MIDI Learn the X value of ModMath 4 and then move all targets from Pressure to ModMath 4. I don't think there'll be many presets where ModMath 4 is taken, and this way you get an extra CC for free.

[ThoughtExperiment]

Why aren't there more CC options to choose from in the list of sources in the mod Matrix?

Because for 25 years people were just fine with 2 CC options. Now we added two more, and suddenly it is not enough... that is something I can't really wrap my head around...

Here's an idea: Why don't you MIDI Learn the X value of ModMath 4 and then move all targets from Pressure to ModMath 4. I don't think there'll be many presets where ModMath 4 is taken, and this way you get an extra CC for free.

That's an excellent idea, I knew you'd be able to think of something

As for the first part of your reply, I do know exactly what you mean, and I'm sorry for banging on about this. As a long-term user of most of your synths, and after ditching my AT-equipped keyboard 20 years ago because I couldn't get along with it, nobody was more surprised than me when this became an issue. I could usually get around it by swapping AT for CtrlB, or if I couldn't do that I'd use an XY pad. The thing is, I don't remember ever having so many presets where every single mod slot was already taken up by the patch design. All I can guess is: maybe your preset creators were so inspired by Z3's modulation possibilities they got carried away and used up every available source

Anyway, you've given me a very convenient workaround so thanks once again for that and I'll stop bugging you now

[Fannon]

Why aren't there more CC options to choose from in the list of sources in the mod Matrix?

Because for 25 years people were just fine with 2 CC options. Now we added two more, and suddenly it is not enough... that is something I can't really wrap my head around...

Maybe because in Zebra 2 you had 8 Macros + 2 Ctrl / CCs, giving you 10 total. Now you have 4 macros and they double-duty with Ctrl. Not complaining, for me 4 is reasonable. But maybe it would be useful to have 2 more "empty" (by convention) slots that you could use without having to clean / reassign existing Ctrl A-D ?

[Urs]

Sure, we've been thinking about 4 extra "User Slots".

We'll see how much of a problem all of this is, and we can always add things in subsequent updates. We just can't easily take away things, so we're reluctant to jump on things while Ctrl A..D are not even in their final implementation.

[exmatproton]

Why aren't there more CC options to choose from in the list of sources in the mod Matrix?

Because for 25 years people were just fine with 2 CC options. Now we added two more, and suddenly it is not enough... that is something I can't really wrap my head around...

Here's an idea: Why don't you MIDI Learn the X value of ModMath 4 and then move all targets from Pressure to ModMath 4. I don't think there'll be many presets where ModMath 4 is taken, and this way you get an extra CC for free.

well...times have changed quite a bit. If i could freely speak out my wishes for the already awesome Zebra3 i would certainly wish for the following;

8 macro's (simple knobs)
8 lfo's
8 mseg's
8 modmappers
8 different random mod sources
4 noise sources
4 eq sources
4 exciter sources
4 modal sources
4 comps
4 reverbs
4 modulation fx
2 or 4 texture reverbs
4 eq's fx
and the ability to send everything into everything

[Fannon]

Sure, we've been thinking about 4 extra "User Slots".

We'll see how much of a problem all of this is, and we can always add things in subsequent updates. We just can't easily take away things, so we're reluctant to jump on things while Ctrl A..D are not even in their final implementation.

User Slots sounds like a good name for it This would also help me with my concerns about assigning MPE Timbre to an existing, preassigned Ctrl. With this I could just assign it to a Ctrl E User Slot which is always free and unassigned.

[NAD]

[...] for 25 years people were just fine with 2 CC options. Now we added two more, and suddenly it is not enough... that is something I can't really wrap my head around...

Speaking personally I can say I've never had much to say about Zebra on this forum, but since the release of the 3.0 beta I basically won't shut up about it . I made some suggestions for Z3 that would have also applied to Z2 but it never would have occurred to me to mention before I guess because Z2 felt like a finished product and I wasn't even thinking about it that way. This whole thing has me so fired up that I just couldn't help myself from participating in the conversation. I guess I'm not the only one either, which may be why you suddenly have all these folks coming out of the woodwork to share their opinions. I think it's a probably a good thing, but I get that it's also confusing and overwhelming.