Ultra Audio - Ultra (A fancy Vital-style synth that popped up out of nowhere)

[dermage]

Just testing this synth now (since the crash doesn't happen on older drivers). And I really like it, but....

A question regarding activation / copy protection:

I have 2 computers usually. One at home, one in my basement studio. Sometimes I use a laptop when longer away from home.
When switching between the 2 computers, do I always need to re-login/re-activate? In the license terms it says only one can be activated at the same time. This sounds a bit cumbersome... Anyone bought it yet and used it in 2 locations?
Also does it always require an internet connection? Eg. can it be used offline, when I do not have a stable connection?
Especially what happens, when I haven't used the synth for some weeks, and want to use it again, do I need to reactivate?

For this price this would be a downside, as no other synth I use only allows 1 activation:
- Diva, Zebra2/3,Hive,Repro, -> no limit in activations, uses Serial
- Arturia synths 3 activations (or 5?)
- Softube synths 3 activations
- UAD synths 3 activations
- UVI Falcon 3 activations

As said, i don't know any recent or top tier synths which allow only one.
So how does it work?

Copy protection which is user friendly is a main deciding reason, especially at this price of the synth.
Unfortunately I had very bad experiences with bad/not user friendly copy protections in the past and need to know this before buying.

Thanks for your input

[dermage]

Ok I think I found my answer in the other thread, and it seems this is the dealbreaker for me:

You can install on as many computers as you like, the only limit is that only once can be signed in at any one time. It's pretty quick to do, especially if you connect with google or facebook.

Imagine every software, synth, plugin requires to sign in?
I own several hundred plugins. Cycle through some, use 20-30 constantly, travelling between my home computer and studio PC (which is at a different location).

Re-Opening a project I'm working on for some weeks, which uses 4-5 soft synths, additonally around effect 15 plugins.
So it is a good UX to have to login each time for each plugin when re-opening a project at a different location? And worse, sometimes a bad copy protection disables one plugin. I need the find the one producing no sound (had this issue with Rapid synth a lot).

Sorry, this is not for professionals. Please think about it. As said, this is a deal breaker. I really like the synth, but this having to re-login one 2 different computers is a user unfriendly copy protection.

[IvyBirds]

Ok I think I found my answer in the other thread, and it seems this is the dealbreaker for me:

You can install on as many computers as you like, the only limit is that only once can be signed in at any one time. It's pretty quick to do, especially if you connect with google or facebook.

Imagine every software, synth, plugin requires to sign in?
I own several hundred plugins. Cycle through some, use 20-30 constantly, travelling between my home computer and studio PC (which is at a different location).

Re-Opening a project I'm working on for some weeks, which uses 4-5 soft synths, additonally around effect 15 plugins.
So it is a good UX to have to login each time for each plugin when re-opening a project at a different location? And worse, sometimes a bad copy protection disables one plugin. I need the find the one producing no sound (had this issue with Rapid synth a lot).

Sorry, this is not for professionals. Please think about it. As said, this is a deal breaker. I really like the synth, but this having to re-login one 2 different computers is a user unfriendly copy protection.

Totally agree that is a hard pass and is worse than Roland's DRM, which is saying something and has burned me at a gig already and now isn't used at all despite owning it outright

The thing is DRM like this only effects paying customers, people who sail the high sees will never deal with this. While I won't pirate, I will also never buy another plugin that treats me that way

[ultra_audio]

Can't tell if we use this thread or the other one but I'm curious about the RTO. I've opted in on the reduced current price. If i pause my RTO at some stage and resume it later, will it be at the same reduced price?

Also feature request (repeating from other thread)- something like Disperser or the diffusor filter in Serum 2. I know Current have it as a warp mode but this is a bit annoying because obviously you lose a warp mode. Phase Plant allow it directly to the wavetable which is lovely. Anyway, for modern sounds, Phase dispersion is very useful imo.

Rent to own price is set when you start it. It won't increase when the offer ends.

Dispersion is an interesting request, I've added it to the list.

[ultra_audio]

Just testing this synth now (since the crash doesn't happen on older drivers). And I really like it, but....

A question regarding activation / copy protection:

I have 2 computers usually. One at home, one in my basement studio. Sometimes I use a laptop when longer away from home.
When switching between the 2 computers, do I always need to re-login/re-activate? In the license terms it says only one can be activated at the same time. This sounds a bit cumbersome... Anyone bought it yet and used it in 2 locations?
Also does it always require an internet connection? Eg. can it be used offline, when I do not have a stable connection?
Especially what happens, when I haven't used the synth for some weeks, and want to use it again, do I need to reactivate?

For this price this would be a downside, as no other synth I use only allows 1 activation:
- Diva, Zebra2/3,Hive,Repro, -> no limit in activations, uses Serial
- Arturia synths 3 activations (or 5?)
- Softube synths 3 activations
- UAD synths 3 activations
- UVI Falcon 3 activations

As said, i don't know any recent or top tier synths which allow only one.
So how does it work?

Copy protection which is user friendly is a main deciding reason, especially at this price of the synth.
Unfortunately I had very bad experiences with bad/not user friendly copy protections in the past and need to know this before buying.

Thanks for your input

we are considering allowing multiple machines. I have adobe suite which allows 2 and it is handy for sure. We would just need to solve some things around the syncing of content between machines. Not promising that we will do it but it doesn't seem like a bad thing to do.

[dermage]

Just testing this synth now (since the crash doesn't happen on older drivers). And I really like it, but....

A question regarding activation / copy protection:

I have 2 computers usually. One at home, one in my basement studio. Sometimes I use a laptop when longer away from home.
When switching between the 2 computers, do I always need to re-login/re-activate? In the license terms it says only one can be activated at the same time. This sounds a bit cumbersome... Anyone bought it yet and used it in 2 locations?
Also does it always require an internet connection? Eg. can it be used offline, when I do not have a stable connection?
Especially what happens, when I haven't used the synth for some weeks, and want to use it again, do I need to reactivate?

For this price this would be a downside, as no other synth I use only allows 1 activation:
- Diva, Zebra2/3,Hive,Repro, -> no limit in activations, uses Serial
- Arturia synths 3 activations (or 5?)
- Softube synths 3 activations
- UAD synths 3 activations
- UVI Falcon 3 activations

As said, i don't know any recent or top tier synths which allow only one.
So how does it work?

Copy protection which is user friendly is a main deciding reason, especially at this price of the synth.
Unfortunately I had very bad experiences with bad/not user friendly copy protections in the past and need to know this before buying.

Thanks for your input

we are considering allowing multiple machines. I have adobe suite which allows 2 and it is handy for sure. We would just need to solve some things around the syncing of content between machines. Not promising that we will do it but it doesn't seem like a bad thing to do.

Thanks for considering. A good copy protection is very important, as it directly affects the feeling of stability/reliability and therefor quality when using a product.
As the previous poster said, in a professional use case you don't want to be bothered by a copy protection, at any time. That's why ilok is so successful and liked in the professional community (at least in recent 10 years or so). The dongle just works, regardless which computer you use or where you are and you usually have now 3 activations for a product, meaning you always have at least one backup in case you lose an activation (computer broke, lost dongle etc)

The moment you improve this and allow 2-3 concurrent activations without having to re login all the time I'm buying this.

[ultra_audio]

The moment you improve this and allow 2-3 concurrent activations without having to re login all the time I'm buying this.

We have discussed this internally, and decided to allow multiple logged in machines.

The reason for the single sign in is to prevent clashes in patch data when syncing between machines, not to make people buy the synth twice.

I can't say when this change will be ready but it is a reasonably high priority for us. We will let you know.

[Download SOphist]

cool! more and more tempted by this one...

[sellyoursoul]

Hopefully I'll get some time to tinker with the Ultra demo this weekend. In the meantime I'm trying to suss out what is possible for use as a sampler and whether it would be useful to me. Can it say, morph/interpolate a closed hi-hat sample to an open hi-hat sample, or even to just a slightly open hi-hat sample, to a convincing degree? Or is that sort of spectral timbre change entirely outside of it's scope of capability? If that is possible, is it possible to do the same between multiple samples, say going from a tight hi-hat, to a slightly open one, to half open, to fully open? And does Ultra support round-robin samples, or is the expectation of use more about using modulation to create variation in sound?

[core]

You can win a free copy of Ultra at the giveaway contest over at https://rekkerd.org/giveaway-contest-wi ... esizer-2x/

[warcat]

ultra_audio Is there any chance you might add the option to switch GUI to a black skin? The current one actually looks very good, but in terms of eye strain, black is still much better (at least in my case, especially on OLED screens, probably because on OLED black means the pixel is turned off).

[Sampleconstruct]

So I figure that the entire preset system is a closed ecosystem, exporting packs and distributing them by myself seems to be impossible and one can only publish sounds/packs via the embedded store. That's a pity really as I don't want to agree to the terms for selling sounds via the store which can be studied here.

[Dr.Gunjah]

What's the issue with the terms?

[simmo75]

Does Ultra have granular synthesis?
Looks really nice

[DrGonzo]

As far as I can see, the only way to publish your own sounds is through the developer. Is this correct?