The Greatest Loss If NI Disappears?

[digitalboytn]

The biggest loss if NI disappears is that peeps won't be able to bitch and moan about them here on the KVR forums....

But NI are not going to fold...

The're just going through some much needed restructuring and getting rid of some of the overpaid "experts" in the management department

God knows it is long overdue

[cryophonik]

"The greatest loss" most likely varies from individual to individual. For me:
- NI: Reaktor
- iZotope: RX

Neither of those are hardware instruments.

[tapper mike]

The biggest loss if NI disappears is that peeps won't be able to bitch and moan about them here on the KVR forums....

But NI are not going to fold...

The're just going through some much needed restructuring and getting rid of some of the overpaid "experts" in the management department

God knows it is long overdue

When does that ever happen? I've seen decades and decades of layoffs and restructuring. The first part that goes are the workers the second are the lower level devs. Top brass always get the golden parachutes when the company folds.

[VitaminD]

The biggest loss if NI disappears is that peeps won't be able to bitch and moan about them here on the KVR forums....

But NI are not going to fold...

The're just going through some much needed restructuring and getting rid of some of the overpaid "experts" in the management department

God knows it is long overdue

When does that ever happen? I've seen decades and decades of layoffs and restructuring. The first part that goes are the workers the second are the lower level devs. Top brass always get the golden parachutes when the company folds.

Which is infuriating. They directly claim they deserve 7+ figure salaries because of their responsibility in the company. Then, when the company fails, they're giving each other golden parachutes rewarding themselves for their failures.

I think the C-Suite of a failed company should OWE the employees money. It should hurt so severely, financially, that all are careful of their decisions. The captains of industry should go down with their ships. No more rewards for poor performance.

[DrGonzo]

Does NI still support their bling-bling Maschine controller?

[nanostream]

I’m hopeful everything will turn out alright in the end. NI is sitting on some very valuable IP, and much of it is tightly integrated. It wouldn’t make much sense to me trying to sell Maschine and Komplete, but without Reaktor for example.

But if all goes wrong and they split up the company by selling Kontakt, for me the biggest loss would be Reaktor. The whole ecosystem actually, from the User Library to Toybox blocks to Twisted Tools ensembles or whatever, it’s all invaluable to me.

I still can hardly imagine Reaktor dying for good, though. They just ported it to Apple silicon, the upkeep cost has to be marginal for now. The DSP is still top notch, this alone should keep it alive.

And there’s still so much untapped potential, mostly UX related and how to access all this great DSP. With a little bit of love and investment I’m sure at least some of it can be tapped.

Also, Massive X. And Guitar Rig. Ffs. I hope this gets sorted soon.

[Bombadil]

NI saw the last of any money from me when I bought a mk2 KK 61. The configuration of the sustain pedal and expression pedal is software mediated. Only problem was, the KK would not configure the pedals. After sending in logs and jumping through a few more hoops, they sent me another, second-hand KK with no serial# that STILL WOULD NOT CONFIGURE!
It now sits in its box, under our bed.
Kontakt would be a bit problematic for me, but not as desperate as it would be for some if it vanished into the ether.
Software..I’m experienced enough to realize that its useability is limited by Mac OS changes. I don’t know how much money I’ve spent on obsolete software. Too much to tell my Missus.
In contrast, my guitars are all in excellent to perfect condition, and they’ll outlast me.
Private Equity firms are a parasitical plague.

[cryophonik]

Does NI still support their bling-bling Maschine controller?

I'm not sure about the Maschine Studio (never owned one), but they still support Maschine+ and both the full and Mikro versions of Maschine mk3. I saw a post a couple of weeks ago somewhere (NI forums or GS?) where a NI employee said that a Maschine update announcement would be coming in a few months at Superbooth.

[glokraw]

Which is infuriating. They directly claim they deserve 7+ figure salaries because of their responsibility in the company. Then, when the company fails, they're giving each other golden parachutes rewarding themselves for their failures.

I think the C-Suite of a failed company should OWE the employees money. It should hurt so severely, financially, that all are careful of their decisions. The captains of industry should go down with their ships. No more rewards for poor performance.

Very well said
I'll add that there is only gold for parachutes if there were enough profits from good decisions stashed away to make them possible, aka 'success'. There is much in life that the 'C-Suite' has no control of, but as you say, the results of bad business decisions need to rest on those who made them. In the U.S. typically a laid-off employee will receive unemployment payments if following their state's rules. That's about a 50% pay cut for six months, depending on one's state system. We may envy a C-Suite member who appears to suffer little consequence in a failed enterprise, but do not consider their future lo$$es, nor losses from their initial investment. Just because they live a richer life when the dust settles than lower level employees, does not automatically make them villains. Many devils dance in the details, and not all are the rich ones.
Cheers

[Greenstorm33]

Which is infuriating. They directly claim they deserve 7+ figure salaries because of their responsibility in the company. Then, when the company fails, they're giving each other golden parachutes rewarding themselves for their failures.

I think the C-Suite of a failed company should OWE the employees money. It should hurt so severely, financially, that all are careful of their decisions. The captains of industry should go down with their ships. No more rewards for poor performance.

Very well said
I'll add that there is only gold for parachutes if there were enough profits from good decisions stashed away to make them possible, aka 'success'. There is much in life that the 'C-Suite' has no control of, but as you say, the results of bad business decisions need to rest on those who made them. In the U.S. typically a laid-off employee will receive unemployment payments if following their state's rules. That's about a 50% pay cut for six months, depending on one's state system.

At least here in PA, if you were making specialized software dev money your unemployment is likely well over a 75% pay cut since the top payout rate works out to about $30000 a year. That could mean the loss of a house or other serious repercussions if you can't find work fast enough and don't have a sizable financial cushion. It's the government doing the bare minimum to subsidize companies so they can freely get rid of employees whenever they want without causing societal uproar.

[DrGonzo]

Does NI still support their bling-bling Maschine controller?

I'm not sure about the Maschine Studio (never owned one), but they still support Maschine+ and both the full and Mikro versions of Maschine mk3. I saw a post a couple of weeks ago somewhere (NI forums or GS?) where a NI employee said that a Maschine update announcement would be coming in a few months at Superbooth.

So they are going to Superbooth? Good.

[Grizzellda]

I don’t know how much money I’ve spent on obsolete software. Too much to tell my Missus.

Good one.

You know what I think? This audio software stuff we like to bullsh*t about on KVR is an industry...and come to think about it, around 5 decades old, quite frankly.

It is maturing and somewhat stabilizing, I feel. You don't need a whole bunch of software products, unless you are a Gear Aquisition eff'n Addict.

I just got Zebra 3...an early investor, you could say. ...I have not tried it at all, just seen screenshots, will put it on a more modern computer, at some point. Maybe with Linux. I know it will be fantastic. How many synths like that would I need?

Also, there is Zebralette 3, and for those out there who appreciate a freebie...a free synthesizer you can just have, well I highly recommend it..."possibly the best". Well, real nice, anyhow.

Awhile back a poster wrote something like...it is better to really get to know a few softwares, than hardly having any skill at using loads of software, and getting nothing accomplished.

And I agree.

[Bombadil]

I agree, too. I’m not the only one who got befuddled by too many choices. I don’t need 66 TrackS modules. I use a handful regularly.
Don’t need 50 reverbs…
Etc.
If we were better off financially, I would have a room dedicated to music. My ‘studio’ is a corner of our livingroom. Guitars are stashed in most available corners.

[Bunny_boy]

Which is infuriating. They directly claim they deserve 7+ figure salaries because of their responsibility in the company. Then, when the company fails, they're giving each other golden parachutes rewarding themselves for their failures.

I think the C-Suite of a failed company should OWE the employees money. It should hurt so severely, financially, that all are careful of their decisions. The captains of industry should go down with their ships. No more rewards for poor performance.

Very well said
I'll add that there is only gold for parachutes if there were enough profits from good decisions stashed away to make them possible, aka 'success'. There is much in life that the 'C-Suite' has no control of, but as you say, the results of bad business decisions need to rest on those who made them. In the U.S. typically a laid-off employee will receive unemployment payments if following their state's rules. That's about a 50% pay cut for six months, depending on one's state system.

At least here in PA, if you were making specialized software dev money your unemployment is likely well over a 75% pay cut since the top payout rate works out to about $30000 a year. That could mean the loss of a house or other serious repercussions if you can't find work fast enough and don't have a sizable financial cushion. It's the government doing the bare minimum to subsidize companies so they can freely get rid of employees whenever they want without causing societal uproar.

You don't get redundancy pay?

[Grizzellda]

I agree, too. I’m not the only one who got befuddled by too many choices. I don’t need 66 TrackS modules. I use a handful regularly.
Don’t need 50 reverbs…
Etc.
If we were better off financially, I would have a room dedicated to music. My ‘studio’ is a corner of our livingroom. Guitars are stashed in most available corners.

I can gel with that.