If you had to stick to one DAW, which one would it be?

[Grizzellda]

I've looked at MuLab a few times and I wouldn't even consider it. Any application that purports to be for music production and doesn't show a screenshot that includes the mixer is immediately suspect to me. Even when I searched for screenshots, only about 1 in 20 showed the mixer. When I found one that did, I understood why you wouldn't show it, it looks ugly and appears to be mostly useless.

Oh, come on now BONES , you likely did not even make an effort to gel with MuLab.

The mixer channels are useless? Is this what you are saying? This could be blasphemy!

It is really versatile, but it is not for lazy users, I know personally for certain!!

[Chicken Drummy]

@Grizzellda

Got him!

[BONES]

MuLab is fully modular (see that window?) so each mixer rack can be customised with any number of slots that can be routed anywhere, and each rack can add a front panel that includes macros for any plugin, like Live.

Another reason to avoid it like the f**king plague. Who wants to f**k around with shit like that? I just want a mixer where I can set levels/pan and add the occasional effect. I want all that stuff built-in/hardwired so that I don't have to f**k around with it. There is shit like that in Studio Pro but I have never so much as looked at (seen it in videos) it and I'm confident I never will.

And you can customise the colours, knobs, etc.

Again, more f**king hassle I don't need.

Oh, come on now BONES , you likely did not even make an effort to gel with MuLab.

Why would I when there are alternatives that I gel with straight away? I've got work to do, I need to be productive, not fart-arsing about just trying to get basic things done. When I chose Studio One, it was because I could be productive from the first hour after installing it. I think I watched half-a-dozen of Gregor's "minute" videos and that's all I needed to start porting songs over from Orion. In the five or so years since I've only needed to consult the manual or watch another video on a handful of occasions. It made sense to me from the get-go and you can't beat that when you have shit to do.

It is really versatile, but it is not for lazy users, I know personally for certain!!

Which I would interpret to say "anyone who actually wants to get shit done, not just waste away their lives noodling around, never producing anything.

I don't want "versatile", I want focused. I want a tool with exactly the features I need and nothing more. Of course, no such tool exists so compromises are inevitable but that's why I spent $99 on Studio Artist, even though I already had a Pro license.

[Michael L]

I just want a mixer where I can set levels/pan and add the occasional effect. I want all that stuff built-in/hardwired

See my MuLab screenshot with those skinny racks, just meters with two knobs and no slots?
The meters are levels, the knobs are pan and width. All hardwired. Easy as!

I'm not trying to convince you cuz you're an S1-Boy and this thread sez, "Stick to One DAW."
I'm just sharing facts, so what you say is actually-factually and not BONE-headed.
(a fool's errand, of course )

[Grizzellda]

I like PreSonus, Studio One is beautiful.

[machinesworking]

I like PreSonus, Studio One is beautiful.

I like the general refusal to accept Fender Studio Pro as the new name. Reminds me of Twitter.

I think FSP is an appropriate acronym BTW, like DP11 and FL.

[Grizzellda]

Well, we will see how things develop from here on in!

[EnGee]

I think I will stick with Studio Pro for the time being because it ticks all I need:
1. Great workflow (especially it has similar keyboard shortcuts to Cubase, which I know more than other DAWs).
2. Very good score editor (I like it more than in Cubase). It has tabular and staff view at the same time for Guitars (which is very useful for beginners like me).
3. In the piano roll, it shows me the name of the chord that I play. It is very useful because I play the chords that I like then looking them up.
4. Flexible drums maps editing for any plugin (Battery 4, Addictive Drums, ..etc which I can find in the Exchange already).
5. Great overall design, both the interface and functionality.

[twal]

"Wasting time" messing around with daw parameters doesn't feel so to me.
let me explain:

In Reaper, if I find something new to add to make my workflow more seamless, I get excited to try it out.
When I get home from a long day, sometimes making music can be more effort than I can output, and
working with the daw is refreshing and fun. Working in Reaper isn't this huge complex thing. Sure, it can be
daunting for a lot but not for me. I spent about a month getting used to it but I was having a lot of fun doing so (oh no a month, that's so much time. Well, learning FL Studio and Reason was WAY more aggravating than learning Reaper because Reaper's modularity made it easier for me to conceive). If you want to talk about bloat, look at Reason, especially as a newbie (many already learn a daw through and through before they investigate Reaper so my situation is much different). If you want to talk about workflow overload, take a look at FL Studio which has the strangest to my brain setup but that's just me! To each their own. No hate there. I started with Cubase originally and Cakewalk so my brain works more like that......... I like building and learning how things work when it comes to production, so Reaper is right up my alley. I also enjoy understanding manual master chains, mix buses, and sophisticated fx groupings- not just slapping on a do-it-all plugin; although, I like that too! If I needed something straight away, yeah Studio One can do it. If you are a musician and need it right away that makes sense. The difference with me, is that I have my setup already and can move quickly so that doesn't matter to me now. I think quick fixes are similar to how people will use AI instead of just playing some stuff out themselves, but we have already been doing that with random preset generators -- loosely put -- chord generators, and samplers. I don't have any issues with AI. If someone is worried about AI taking over, I would suggest them looking at what makes an artist successful- hard work!

I am always willing to hear someone out when it comes to their workflow...

[BONES]

See my MuLab screenshot with those skinny racks, just meters with two knobs and no slots?
The meters are levels, the knobs are pan and width. All hardwired. Easy as!

But where are the effects? Not all in one place, not a mixer. A really good example of why I like Studio Pro is the way you can get mini-views of effect controls in the mixer, without having to open a window to make adjustments. It's exactly the kind of feature that gives me confidence that SPro is being developed for people who work in a similar way to me. That, in turn, gives me confidence that it will continue to be developed in a way that is relevant to me. Similarly, or opposite maybe, when BItwig came out with their grid, I knew that my decision to sell it on and find something else was the right one because it was definitely not going to be developed with users like me in mind.

I like the general refusal to accept Fender Studio Pro as the new name. Reminds me of Twitter. I think FSP is an appropriate acronym BTW, like DP11 and FL.

Why bother with the "Fender" part at all? Nobody ever used to call it "PreSonus Studio One", did they? The change from Studio One to Studio Pro is not such a big step.

[jamcat]

But there’s also Fender Studio. Fender Studio Pro is the pro version of Fender Studio. It would be way too generic to literally just call it “Studio.”

[jens]

But where are the effects?

They are right there - do you perhaps need reading glasses?

[BONES]

I went back 10 pages and couldn't find a screenshot of anything. Excuse me if my memory of seeing it a week or more ago doesn't include every detail. But even if they are there, you're not going to be able to interact with them without opening a separate window, are you? So still not like a proper mixer.

[Trancit]

I went back 10 pages and couldn't find a screenshot of anything. Excuse me if my memory of seeing it a week or more ago doesn't include every detail. But even if they are there, you're not going to be able to interact with them without opening a separate window, are you? So still not like a proper mixer.

This is the MuTools website... the mixer has a collapsed and an expanded view (a bit similar to S1)...
https://www.mutools.com/mulab-product.html

On the top of the page this is the Image with the Mixer section in "normal" expanded mode... in opposite to S1 you can collapse each track seperate though...

And yes... Mulab is a bit more complicated... compare it with a modular synth (Mulab) vs. a hardwired one (S1) ... modularity has it´s benefits but with costs of being more cumbersome and needs to miss out on features which aren´t possible in a modular DAW because of it´s nature...

Mulab is a very lightweigthed but powerfull modular DAW with an outstanding internal modular sound engine too...
It´s not a replacement for people liking a DAW like S1 or similar ... it´s more for tinkerers, sound designers and in general people liking the freedom of modular stuff...

It has otoh a very genius developer who really knows his stuff... a super kind person I like very much!

[Michael L]

I went back 10 pages and couldn't find a screenshot of anything. Excuse me if my memory of seeing it a week or more ago doesn't include every detail. But even if they are there, you're not going to be able to interact with them without opening a separate window, are you? So still not like a proper mixer.

Hey Boner, go back two pages (89), and down 12 posts. Its the only screenshot on the page. Or click the up-arrow below.

Yes, you can interact with the MuLab mixer rack without opening a separate window, and each rack has dropdown menus of effects.

AND, because MuLab is modular you can build your own custom effects by connecting stock presets and third-party plugins to make a new plugin - and access macros without even opening the rack (like Live).

MuLab.png

But, as I said back then, you're happy with S1 so don't cheat on him, cuz you've been a couple for so long and he's perfect for you
Stand By Your Man!