Will Ai be the next big step in music?

[annode]

Here a well known artist I listen to using Suno to experiment.
Please start listening @ 10.45. Listen to the rest as a curiosity.

"A demonstration of possibility. I tried to make an eclectic mix with a wide variety of sounds and styles to give an idea of capabilities.

All sounds created in Suno.ai
Prompted, mixed & edited by Makyo.

Note the current sound quality of Suno is only mp3. I have tried to make it sound as good as it can."
https://soundcloud.com/dakini-records/m ... x-by-makyo

I want this only to demonstrate that Ai can musically be used for good.
These musical ideas sprouting from Makyo are not what I normally expect from him. I expect that Suno came up with them and Makyo built upon them.

[annode]

Check this guy out. Turkish Ai making Turkish music. He sings his parts and it assembles it with instruments. (Ai program called Eita)

[eassae]

Check this out. It's a picture of a hippo that looks like it's about to eat a bird.

[zerocrossing]

Check this guy out. Turkish Ai making Turkish music. He sings his parts and it assembles it with instruments. (Ai program called Eita)

It's got that weird phasey AI tone, and if you're going for an AI avatar, why not have it give you more hair?

[Zeisner]

Check this guy out.

This guy doesn't exist, that's just an AI creation.

[lobanov]

Are you serious? This is the same logic as AI itself.

Well, that's how you have to hack LLMs because they are language-based.

I don't have to hack it that way. Nobody has. When I told about "hacking" I meant a "deep" misuse. It's like putting an urinal in a exhibition hall, in a museum (Marcel Duchamp). Real punk.

You are telling about smoothed-out hacking. Domestic one. If you don't go beyond that logic, you just use the rules, but don't misuse them.

An extremely personalized composition that you got with thousands of refining prompts already violates that logic. Because the basic idea is fast, instantaneous generation of music. But that's only one (and trivial) way to do it.

Another (also extremely trivial) option is real musicians who perform music composed by AI.

But there are probably more interesting options.

[lobanov]

Check this guy out.

This guy doesn't exist, that's just an AI creation.

I just want to empasize it.

This guy exists but he does nothing. Let's be fair. This is deeply incorrect to ascribe the authorship to this guy.

[DCrown]

I feel kinda retarted cuz I still use and.play real instruments. Sooner or later AI will.probably get me , too, I imagine how I ask AI to make a heavy metal version of some Beethoven or Gustav Mahler symphony adding some Joni Mitchell vocals and think what is wrong with me.

A Hip Hop version of Mozart's Zauberflöte
Or make an Elvis voice sing a Paco de Lucia flamenco guitar solo

[annode]

Check this guy out.

This guy doesn't exist, that's just an AI creation.

I just want to empasize it.

This guy exists but he does nothing. Let's be fair. This is deeply incorrect to ascribe the authorship to this guy.

My response to all that replied to "Check this guy out. "
!st off, it's not about the guy. I couldn't care less about that annoying user, I mostly skipped ahead. My interest was the Ai music program designed for Turkish music. People are so negative here. Are you all depressed? You need to cut everything down and can't see the novelty in things. No one had a single comment about the Makyo Ai experiment I posted just above that. Maybe because it's harder to find anything negative to say about it. (that's not a challenge)

[Bunny_boy]

I feel kinda retarted cuz I still use and.play real instruments. Sooner or later AI will.probably get me , too, I imagine how I ask AI to make a heavy metal version of some Beethoven or Gustav Mahler

Probably sound like King Crimson

[DCrown]

Check this guy out. Turkish Ai making Turkish music. He sings his parts and it assembles it with instruments. (Ai program called Eita)

That's what AI always delivers, something I have already heard a thousand times before, no orginality with an overuse of standards. I know Turkish music and I appreciate Sezen Aksu.

[jancivil]

Check this guy out.

This guy doesn't exist, that's just an AI creation.

within a couple of seconds there's a descending bend that's obviously pitch wheel as applied to a patch that doesn't do so well with pitch bend. it isn't at all convincing. A sample library will have likely sampled some bends and gestures knowing this. beyond cringe, I exited right away.

pitch wheel trying to fake such a thing is not the next big step unless the goal is 20 yrs in the past and people with shit chops

[VariKusBrainZ]

AI composing ability is for the masses at the moment, people with an ear will reject it, of course there will be outliers.
I look forward to AI music that triggers me the same way human music does.
It learns from our critique

[Bombadil]

The Inner Party used machines to write songs for the Proles.

[enroe]

Here a well known artist I listen to using Suno to experiment.
...

I want this only to demonstrate that Ai can musically be used for good.
These musical ideas sprouting from Makyo are not what I normally expect from him. I expect that Suno came up with them and Makyo built upon them.

Hmm ... can AI really be used "for good"?

As a reminder -- the initial post, at the very bottom: Here we are
at (2) "AI song composition now". And here everyone can listen:
Even the current Suno can already sound quite good. Apparently,
a virtual person "Makyo" created an mp3 via text prompt
and a little tuning, which doesn't sound half bad.

From here, dear "annode," you can even think about the future:
Today—without AI—every musician can compose, record, and
mix at home. This is possible because DAWs and numerous
plugins have advanced to the point where any hobby musician
can do this for little money, provided they take on the work and,
in addition to playing an instrument and developing a melody,
familiarize themselves with equalizers and compressors. And so
many people are doing just that that 100,000 new songs are
uploaded to Spotify every single day!

What will the future look like with AI?

Then any non-musician can create amazing songs using a text
prompt and without any knowledge of mixing or mastering, and
upload them to Spotify. What will happen then?

Well, then even more songs will be uploaded every day, probably
millions. And of course, nobody will listen to these songs.
Furthermore, no one can distinguish anymore: Is this song by a
musician of flesh and blood, or is it AI-generated?

And of course, there will still be a music culture on radio and TV,
on internet content providers, in live performances, etc. However,
insofar as this is elaborate, i.e., commercial, the music will be
exclusively AI-generated.

Dear annode, you can continue to promote AI as a "new possibility",
but ultimately you are cannibalizing your own person as a musician.