I like Tracktion !

[Daniel Pompougnac]

I like Tracktion !
But... maybe, it seems to me... A mixer is missing, no ?

Daniel

[valley]

no.

[Todd24]

Tracktion has a mixer. It is on the right end of each track. It uses "filters" to do the tasks that a mixer does. It just isnt in a seperate window. Which is really a cool thing.

[Left Headphone]

Its different. I like the no mixer idea. Wish it had a synth rack for vsti's and dxi's like the one in Sonar. If you cut the synth off in the synth rack, it release the memory and cpu. Brilliant!

Come on guys. What do you think?

[NAS]

All audio software with multiple tracks has a mixer built in ,Its just hidden away in T ,There really is no need for a mixer onscreen if you think about it because its a paradox

If the mixer is onscreen with all its nice shiny sliders next to each other you can still only use your mouse and change one level but if you connect it to a controller(T2)you can move as manyt sliders at the same time as you like but then theres a controller in front of you so why have the mixer onscreen ?


What we need is for one of these clever JUCE guys to create a mixer interface thats all ,When you have your track going you could use your mixer interface which would just be a screen that you add knobs and sliders to then in T2 you could assign these knobs and sliders to the level and pan and even EQ ,Think about this is a very powerful way of working because you could create the exact mixer needed for each particular song and it wouldn't use any CPU atall because its just sending MIDI CC data.

[nuffink]

With a traditional mixer interface you get an instant visual feedback of the most important parameter in your mix; the relative level of each track.
With Tracktion you an instant visual feedback of relative pan. Until you add a "filter" then you get instant visual feedback of f**k all.
I admire what Jules is trying to do but sometimes things are the way they are for a reason.
And, while I'm on one, calling plugins filters is crap, calling a track gerald makes more sense. At least gerald doesn't have another meaning in the world of sequencers to add to the confusion.

[NAS]

With a traditional mixer interface you get an instant visual feedback of the most important parameter in your mix; the relative level of each track.
With Tracktion you an instant visual feedback of relative pan. Until you add a "filter" then you get instant visual feedback of f**k all.
I admire what Jules is trying to do but sometimes things are the way they are for a reason.
And, while I'm on one, calling plugins filters is crap, calling a track gerald makes more sense. At least gerald doesn't have another meaning in the world of sequencers to add to the confusion.

I dont know if its me strugglin cause i've just had someone poking around in my head but

WHAT LANGUAGE IS THIS IN IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME

[nuffink]

With a traditional mixer interface you get an instant visual feedback of the most important parameter in your mix; the relative level of each track.
With Tracktion you an instant visual feedback of relative pan. Until you add a "filter" then you get instant visual feedback of f**k all.
I admire what Jules is trying to do but sometimes things are the way they are for a reason.
And, while I'm on one, calling plugins filters is crap, calling a track gerald makes more sense. At least gerald doesn't have another meaning in the world of sequencers to add to the confusion.

I dont know if its me strugglin cause i've just had someone poking around in my head but

WHAT LANGUAGE IS THIS IN IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME

Sorry about that. I only deal in english. I'm not sure if bablefish does an english-moron translation but you could give it a go.

[Sage]

No skin off my back if there's a "mixer view" added to T2 (I suspect that will be one of the last announcements if it is). However, I hope that if it is added, it doesn't contain any extra functionality that isn't already present in the rest of the interface.

That is to say... I don't use the mixer interface because I don't need it in Tracktion. I especially don't want to have to use it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I don't mind if Jules adds it in, but I hope it doesn't become a necessary part of the workflow.

[Sage]

With a traditional mixer interface you get an instant visual feedback of the most important parameter in your mix; the relative level of each track.
With Tracktion you an instant visual feedback of relative pan. Until you add a "filter" then you get instant visual feedback of f**k all.
I admire what Jules is trying to do but sometimes things are the way they are for a reason.
And, while I'm on one, calling plugins filters is crap, calling a track gerald makes more sense. At least gerald doesn't have another meaning in the world of sequencers to add to the confusion.

Tracktion has a level meter beside every track. I'm pretty sure that's a lot more "instant" than having to bring up a separate mixer window.

Sometimes things are the way they are for a reason, yeah. And that reason is: "Until Tracktion, nobody bothered to think up a better way of doing things than by mimicking a hardware mixer, the very thing a software mixer is meant to obsolete." This is Tracktion's strongest point -- the fact that you don't NEED an extra window to mix. Everything is right in front of you. Most of us LIKE that, that's why we use Tracktion in the first place. If you can't get past your outmoded workflow, then there is plenty of software that caters to your needs.

Oh, and as for refering to plugins as "filters," I'm sure you'd love the confusion that comes from referring to a Tracktion rack filter as a "plugin," when in fact the rack filter has no corresponding file, because it's NOT A PLUGIN. A plugin is a file. A filter is Tracktion's representation of an effect. It's not that hard.

[NAS]

With a traditional mixer interface you get an instant visual feedback of the most important parameter in your mix; the relative level of each track.
With Tracktion you an instant visual feedback of relative pan. Until you add a "filter" then you get instant visual feedback of f**k all.
I admire what Jules is trying to do but sometimes things are the way they are for a reason.
And, while I'm on one, calling plugins filters is crap, calling a track gerald makes more sense. At least gerald doesn't have another meaning in the world of sequencers to add to the confusion.

I dont know if its me strugglin cause i've just had someone poking around in my head but

WHAT LANGUAGE IS THIS IN IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME

Sorry about that. I only deal in english. I'm not sure if bablefish does an english-moron translation but you could give it a go.

Sorry dude i dont want to flame ya but you are talkin pure rubbish ,What exactly does With Tracktion you an instant visual feedback of relative pan. Until you add a "filter" then you get instant visual feedback of f**k all mean ,T has instant visual feedback of volume and pan and when you add a filter it gets smaller so you pull it to the left a little to make it bigger ,Sorry to point that out but you where talkin rubbish ,Im also a little puzzled at why you had to resort to personal attacks isn't that a little pointless ?

[Rock]

I've always felt that it would be nice if Tracktion had a mixer for those who wanted one. Like PT said last year, I don't suggest that Tracktion change so that users would be forced to or even need to use it. Seems like Jules himself expressed at one point an open mind to creating some sort of feature that would allow users to build sets of controlers into something akin to a mixer. That would be the direction I would like to see him take it. If a mixer doesn't add anything for you I can see why you don't want it at the top of the priority list, but I don't get the strong opposition to some sort of Tracktion mixer in the future.


If you're a newbie this might be worth looking at...

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... ight=mixer

[IIRs]

With a traditional mixer interface you get an instant visual feedback of the most important parameter in your mix; the relative level of each track.

How does that help?

Don't know about you, but I use my ears to tell me if something is loud enough, not my eyes..

[nuffink]

How does that help?

Don't know about you, but I use my ears to tell me if something is loud enough, not my eyes..

Cool, I wish I was that good. But, like the legion of producers that rely on decent metering, I like visual feedback.

[ModuLR]

How does that help?

Don't know about you, but I use my ears to tell me if something is loud enough, not my eyes..

I totally agree.. if anything, it might force a few folks to break some bad habbits and actually listen to their mix.