Zebra 3 Public Beta Revision 20399

[nexusfluxx]

My impression is that wavetable synthesis is already a bit, well, beyond its zenith...

And, then there is granular synthesis...which is about as awe inspiring as plaid pants.

[Grizzellda]

My impression is that wavetable synthesis is already a bit, well, beyond its zenith...

And, then there is granular synthesis...which is about as awe inspiring as plaid pants.

Oh, but I simply luv...PLAID PANTS!!

[audiojunkie]

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SO TO REAPEAT LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE BACK: IF YOU WANT THIS TO WORK LIKE SERUM...GET SERUM..THIS AIN'T YO GRANDMA'S WAVETABLE SYNTH. Also, where does that mindset come.from that you can only own like...two synths and use only one DAW? Dude, are we not musicians? Creative sound designs? Or are we corporate record label executives that one the same sound all the time, Every time? (I mean, I understand low budget being a gatekeeper . Los Bugets can ruin the fun sometimes)

Scr*w you! I asked a simple question. I asked without any snark or attitude or trolling intentions or any bad desires. I had had a previous conversation about the subject with Urs, and was following upon the topic. It was NOT my desire to “torment” the developers about anything. I had been wondering if maybe I had not communicated well what I had been trying to say last time, and posted a video of a good example of what I had previously tried to describe with only words.

I had good intentions and sincerely wanted to know the answer. I have been enthusiastic about Zebra 3, and I still plan on buying it. But you know what? I was tied to the “whipping post” and punished for the collective sins of not only my own question, but for the sins of everyone else who apparently asked a similar question or mentioned a specific synth!

So for those in the back, who can’t hear well, here is a collective scr*w you, and everyone else who couldn’t realize that I asked a simple question without knowing that it would offend everybody in the world.

And I still plan to buy the synthesizer even after all of that.

[Urs]

I was tied to the “whipping post” and punished for the collective sins of not only my own question, but for the sins of everyone else who apparently asked a similar question or mentioned a specific synth!

I'm sorry that it came across that way.

Let me explain how we got there:

You wanted my thoughts. You literally asked me to watch a video of a competing product, which implies that you expect me to figure out what this product does or how it works. This, seriously, is not my job, and not anything I enjoy doing. You probably had no idea, sorry.

So my thoughts were quite sincere here, too. I do wonder if other developers, who may or may not be as accessible as I am here, suffer from the same issue. I hope not.

The guys in my company would love for me to give up on KVR, which is the only social platform left that I still regularly communicate on. I try to keep conversations strictly related to our products, preferredly on uplifting aspects and topics. Other people collect bug reports, I get to post product announcements, yay.

However, due to the nature of the current beta period and due to its timing, I spend way too much time here, so that we are indeed thinking about doing all this differently, as my productivity and ambition suffers greatly from all these needless side threads that have nothing to do with what we work on.

[audiojunkie]

I was tied to the “whipping post” and punished for the collective sins of not only my own question, but for the sins of everyone else who apparently asked a similar question or mentioned a specific synth!

I'm sorry that it came across that way.

Let me explain how we got there:

You wanted my thoughts. You literally asked me to watch a video of a competing product, which implies that you expect me to figure out what this product does or how it works. This, seriously, is not my job, and not anything I enjoy doing. You probably had no idea, sorry.

So my thoughts were quite sincere here, too. I do wonder if other developers, who may or may not be as accessible as I am here, suffer from the same issue. I hope not.

The guys in my company would love for me to give up on KVR, which is the only social platform left that I still regularly communicate on. I try to keep conversations strictly related to our products, preferredly on uplifting aspects and topics. Other people collect bug reports, I get to post product announcements, yay.

However, due to the nature of the current beta period and due to its timing, I spend way too much time here, so that we are indeed thinking about doing all this differently, as my productivity and ambition suffers greatly from all these needless side threads that have nothing to do with what we work on.

I’m sorry too. It was never my intention to offend.

[VitaminD]

I was tied to the “whipping post” and punished for the collective sins of not only my own question, but for the sins of everyone else who apparently asked a similar question or mentioned a specific synth!

I'm sorry that it came across that way.

Let me explain how we got there:

You wanted my thoughts. You literally asked me to watch a video of a competing product, which implies that you expect me to figure out what this product does or how it works. This, seriously, is not my job, and not anything I enjoy doing. You probably had no idea, sorry.

So my thoughts were quite sincere here, too. I do wonder if other developers, who may or may not be as accessible as I am here, suffer from the same issue. I hope not.

The guys in my company would love for me to give up on KVR, which is the only social platform left that I still regularly communicate on. I try to keep conversations strictly related to our products, preferredly on uplifting aspects and topics. Other people collect bug reports, I get to post product announcements, yay.

However, due to the nature of the current beta period and due to its timing, I spend way too much time here, so that we are indeed thinking about doing all this differently, as my productivity and ambition suffers greatly from all these needless side threads that have nothing to do with what we work on.

I appreciate you being here, Urs. But I too think you should probably be less active here. It's really easy to suggest features that seem easy on the surface but add a massive layer of difficulty and continual support if they are realized. So we can type out all kinds of idea in a few minutes, but the efforts involved in the realization of those ideas probably isn't impressed in a lot of people who make them. So it's a waste of your time.

For all you know, the people making the feature requests aren't even serious about purchasing what they request.

I think this is why we don't see so many large names very active on forums and social media. It can be overwhelming slogs of wasted time, responding to unrealistic people's requests/demands. Why subject yourself to that when it's wholly unnecessary?

[audiojunkie]

I was tied to the “whipping post” and punished for the collective sins of not only my own question, but for the sins of everyone else who apparently asked a similar question or mentioned a specific synth!

I'm sorry that it came across that way.

Let me explain how we got there:

You wanted my thoughts. You literally asked me to watch a video of a competing product, which implies that you expect me to figure out what this product does or how it works. This, seriously, is not my job, and not anything I enjoy doing. You probably had no idea, sorry.

So my thoughts were quite sincere here, too. I do wonder if other developers, who may or may not be as accessible as I am here, suffer from the same issue. I hope not.

The guys in my company would love for me to give up on KVR, which is the only social platform left that I still regularly communicate on. I try to keep conversations strictly related to our products, preferredly on uplifting aspects and topics. Other people collect bug reports, I get to post product announcements, yay.

However, due to the nature of the current beta period and due to its timing, I spend way too much time here, so that we are indeed thinking about doing all this differently, as my productivity and ambition suffers greatly from all these needless side threads that have nothing to do with what we work on.

I appreciate you being here, Urs. But I too think you should probably be less active here. It's really easy to suggest features that seem easy on the surface but add a massive layer of difficulty and continual support if they are realized. So we can type out all kinds of idea in a few minutes, but the efforts involved in the realization of those ideas probably isn't impressed in a lot of people who make them. So it's a waste of your time.

For all you know, the people making the feature requests aren't even serious about purchasing what they request.

I think this is why we don't see so many large names very active on forums and social media. It can be overwhelming slogs of wasted time, responding to unrealistic people's requests/demands. Why subject yourself to that when it's wholly unnecessary?

That may be true, but I feel that the access to Urs is also one of the reasons (out of many, many reasons) that I feel such a loyalty to the company. Few other companies make me feel that way.

[pdxindy]

The other thing is that sometimes people expect Zebra to be a wavetable synth like any other, which it is not. That's probably because sample based wavetable synthesis has become an ingredient shared by many popular synths. But then, if every popular synth already has sample based wavetable synthesis, what is the point in making another? My impression is that wavetable synthesis is already a bit, well, beyond its zenith - people regularly yawn at new releases. Maybe something like Ultra can revive it for bit, but it IMHO doesn't change that the omnipresence of it leaves little room for more, and with Hive we already have a very popular product in that market.

I can only speak for myself, but I like Zebra 3's Curve based Osc Morphing much more than standard wavetables. I find it easier, more powerful and more precise to create intended results from scratch. The control over the morph is a magnitude better than the standard wavetable editor. Then the OscFX and curve morphing within them goes far beyond.

The Z3 Oscillator is the best I have used (including hardware and euro rack).

[ahanysz]

The guys in my company would love for me to give up on KVR, which is the only social platform left that I still regularly communicate on.

This is one of the many cool things about U-he, that a few of the staff are visible here, being part of the community. By all means take a break when you need to. But afterwards, please come back!

[Urs]

I'm not going anywhere... I've already been posting a lot less through recent years (almost exclusively in our forum), but this public beta phase is obviously set up to run on KVR...

[HobGoblyn]

My preorder is in yay.

Just checking, are we still on beta 3.3.0 (I haven't missed anything newer)?

Very happy with 3.0.0, still finding my way around just checking that's all.

Many thanks

[Urs]

My preorder is in yay.

Just checking, are we still on beta 3.3.0 (I haven't missed anything newer)?

Very happy with 3.0.0, still finding my way around just checking that's all.

Many thanks

We're on beta 3.0.0 rev 20552 from January 21st

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[HobGoblyn]

Ah many thanks, I"m still on 20399 so will update

[kirfenix]

Hello, community.

I'm writing from Madrid, Spain, and translating this into English with Deep, as I don't know much English, sorry.
I've been trying out Zebra3, the sounds are amazing. I don't usually use synthesis, I'm happy with the sounds created by the developers, they're amazing, But unlike Zebra2, it weighs heavily on the system, the processor gets very bogged down. With Zebra2, I can put as many tracks as I want in Cubase, the DAW I use, and everything runs super smoothly, without any lag. But with Zebra3, I can only use one track; with more than two, the system crashes and gets stuck. I hope this gets fixed. Thank you and keep up the good work.

K.

In spanish:

Os escribo desde Madrid, España y traduzco esto al inglés con deep, no sé tanto inglés, lo siento.
He estado probando Zebra3, los sonidos son una pasada, no suelo usar la síntesis, me conformo con los sonidos que crean los creadores, son una pasada, pero a diferencia de Zebra2 pesa mucho en el sistema, el procesador se queda muy pillado, con Zebra2 puedo poner todas las pistas que quiera en Cubase, el daw que uso y todo va super ligero, ni un retardo, pero con Zebra3 sólo puedo usar una pista, ya más de dos el sistema explota, queda atrancado, espero que esto se solucione. Gracias y adelante.

K.

[audiojunkie]

Hello, community.

I'm writing from Madrid, Spain, and translating this into English with Deep, as I don't know much English, sorry.
I've been trying out Zebra3, the sounds are amazing. I don't usually use synthesis, I'm happy with the sounds created by the developers, they're amazing, But unlike Zebra2, it weighs heavily on the system, the processor gets very bogged down. With Zebra2, I can put as many tracks as I want in Cubase, the DAW I use, and everything runs super smoothly, without any lag. But with Zebra3, I can only use one track; with more than two, the system crashes and gets stuck. I hope this gets fixed. Thank you and keep up the good work.

K.

In spanish:

Os escribo desde Madrid, España y traduzco esto al inglés con deep, no sé tanto inglés, lo siento.
He estado probando Zebra3, los sonidos son una pasada, no suelo usar la síntesis, me conformo con los sonidos que crean los creadores, son una pasada, pero a diferencia de Zebra2 pesa mucho en el sistema, el procesador se queda muy pillado, con Zebra2 puedo poner todas las pistas que quiera en Cubase, el daw que uso y todo va super ligero, ni un retardo, pero con Zebra3 sólo puedo usar una pista, ya más de dos el sistema explota, queda atrancado, espero que esto se solucione. Gracias y adelante.

K.

The translation turned out well! One thing to remember, is that Zebra 3 is so much better sound quality that even when polishing the synth to be super efficient, it will still use more CPU power than Zebra 2 did. That said, there are ways to reduce CPU. Look up Urs' video on using "The Burner", and read his recommendations on how to reduce CPU from patches without making too much change to the sound.

Edit:

Here's the link:



In English-only unfortunately......

Edit 2:

Translating YouTube Videos:

Built-in YouTube Auto-Translate (Subtitles):
1. Click the Subtitles/CC icon on the video player to turn on captions.
2. Click the Settings gear icon --> Subtitles/CC --> Auto-translate.
3. Select your preferred language from the list.

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¡La traducción quedó bien! Recuerda que Zebra 3 tiene una calidad de sonido mucho mejor, e incluso puliendo el sintetizador para que sea súper eficiente, seguirá consumiendo más CPU que Zebra 2. Dicho esto, hay maneras de reducir el consumo de CPU. Busca el video de Urs sobre el uso de "The Burner" y lee sus recomendaciones sobre cómo reducir el consumo de CPU con parches sin modificar demasiado el sonido.

Editar:

Aquí está el enlace:



Lamentablemente, solo disponible en inglés...

Editar 2:

Traducción de videos de YouTube:

Traducción automática de YouTube integrada (subtítulos):
1. Haz clic en el ícono de Subtítulos/CC en el reproductor de video para activar los subtítulos.
2. Haz clic en el ícono de ajustes --> Subtítulos/CC --> Traducir automáticamente.
3. Selecciona tu idioma preferido de la lista.

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Edit 3: It looks like the above instructions won't work for you, because there is no CC/subtitles. I thought they would be autogenerated, but I guess not. Here are some other things you can try:

AI Video Translators & Dubbing (Audio & Subtitles):
* Rask AI: Popular for AI voiceovers in 125+ languages.
* Mapify: Translates videos without downloading, providing summaries.
* RecCloud: Generates translated subtitles or audio directly from a URL.
* Synthesia: Supports translating videos into 29+ languages while preserving the original speaker's voice.

Edición 3: Parece que las instrucciones anteriores no te funcionarán porque no hay subtítulos. Pensé que se generarían automáticamente, pero supongo que no. Aquí tienes otras opciones:

Traductores y doblaje de vídeo con IA (audio y subtítulos):
* Rask AI: Popular por sus voces en off con IA en más de 125 idiomas.
* Mapify: Traduce vídeos sin descargarlos y proporciona resúmenes.
* RecCloud: Genera subtítulos o audio traducidos directamente desde una URL.
* Synthesia: Permite traducir vídeos a más de 29 idiomas, conservando la voz original.