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agharta wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 3:58 pm
sellyoursoul wrote: Mon Jan 26, 2026 10:13 pm Having considered V Collection previously, it looks like way more than I want to deal with. I remember spotting during the holidays a shop selling old versions + upgrade price to the latest version for less than $200, and I passed. I would much rather deal with a single UI and get close enough in sound, as long as the sound is high quality.
It comes with Analog Lab Pro which is a single plugin that allows you to play a lot of the presets from the included synths.
It also allows you limited editing and if you want deeper control it can launch the actual synth.
In the end, I went for transfers of V Collection and FX collection. I'll probably only use a small fraction of what is there, but for my needs I think it is a better fit than Omnisphere, although Omnisphere sounds nice at what it is does, in demos (no trial available). And not that I think Arturia are doing the best analog emulations available, but the emulations that I care most about are reasonably good. And I may look at Omnisphere again down the line, after Spectrasonics works out their browser issues.

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I have a question. Is it possible to modulate the filter frequency with an OSC waveform as the modulator?

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Mantras wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2026 12:22 pm I have a question. Is it possible to modulate the filter frequency with an OSC waveform as the modulator?
Check the manual.
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“Check the manual”

Super helpful bud! I guess ppl now peruse the internet to scold others for asking product relevant questions on product specific forums .

What would you like to talk about? I’m sure you can find a more relevant space ..
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D Midas wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2026 5:37 pm “Check the manual”

Super helpful bud! I guess ppl now peruse the internet to scold others for asking product relevant questions on product specific forums .

What would you like to talk about? I’m sure you can find a more relevant space ..
This took under 6 seconds:
https://support.spectrasonics.net/manua ... ion-page04

Now, what do you want to talk about?
Social skills?
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Mantras wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2026 12:22 pm I have a question. Is it possible to modulate the filter frequency with an OSC waveform as the modulator?
No. Omnisphere isn't that kind of synth. Think of it more like a classic Roland / Yamaha / Korg workstation kind of thing. It's not a super detailed analogue modeled synth. Thus it has no complex FM options. All the ringmod, fm etc systems are "hard wired" and internalized for each oscillator. You can not do any audio rate modulation from one section to the next.

If you are looking for deep synthesis options, Omnisphere is not the correct synth for that.
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I disagree. The purpose behind Omnisphere is its deep synthesis capabilities.

Smart programming suggests not that it emulates a Roland, but it has a Roland built into it - and then some. The workflow is dissimilar, and the architecture is very acute to the source oscillator in the chain (Wave) which has a huge impact on how the stream down towards the end flows. Everything has a purpose, you just need to find the best way suited for you.

Upgraded the other day. Mightily impressed, and a bit overwhelmed, but will continue on the journey of a "lifetime to explore".

It's very user-friendly, but the only gripe I have so far is in the patch menu that comes over the screen for reasons unknown because I just want to create a default patch if I reset the layer or whatever, forcing you to find the X button on the left side of the pane for no reason other than I think we all are using Macs? The UI just needs to be more customizable. I grew up with Windows and the end button is not on the left side of the window, but it's on the right - for me at least - so it's like a mental lapse I have to always move my cursor to the far left of the Omnisphere UI and whatever else which retards my flow.

Here's an AI search saying the same:

Omnisphere is often described as an "instrument of extraordinary power and versatility," providing a "lifetime to explore" for sound designers.

:party: 8) :tu: :phones:

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bmanic wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2026 10:12 pm it has no complex FM options. All the ringmod, fm etc systems are "hard wired" and internalized for each oscillator. You can not do any audio rate modulation from one section to the next.

If you are looking for deep synthesis options, Omnisphere is not the correct synth for that.
Going to disagree with that, because if you want deep synthesis options Omnisphere is is awesome for that

As for FM Omnisphere has very good FM Synthesis possibilities. Far more than just about any Multiengine Deep Synthesis Synth in the market.

Each of the four layers has a dedicated oscillator that acts as a modulator. As for waveform selection you can use any of the 500 Wavetables for that and from there Frequency, Depth, Shape, Symmetry, and FM Sync can all be modulated.

With the waveform options available in the Wavetables you can do Yamaha style FM equivalent to Algorithm 5 or 6 on the DX7 with an extra pair of Operators like on FS1R or Montage you can also do Synclavier II style FM using the preset waveforms

Beyond that you can use the waveforms modeled from vintage Synths in the Wavetables along with the filters and recreate vintage analog style FM

No sure why anyone would say it has "NO" complex FM options, it most certainly does

You can read more about it here

https://support.spectrasonics.net/manua ... tor-page15

Now if you are looking for something very specific a dedicated FM Synthesis Plugin would probably be a better option as always a specialized tool will often have more abilities at that specified thing you are looking for than a generalist one

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If you'd bother to actually read the full context, the FM I mentioned here was specifically answer to the question if you can frequency modulate the filters with an oscillator.. no, you can not.

And then I just added that complex oscillator modulations in general are not possible in Omnisphere. It's all "hard wired" per oscillator. This means that you can not modulate oscillator A with oscillator B.. so no FM between sample layers for instance. There's just a single built in FM modulator which includes all the VA like waveforms.. but that's hardly complex at all in terms of routing.

What seems to constantly trigger you is that you interpret everything to sound like "Omnisphere is simplistic and sucks!". I have absolutely no idea why you are so hell bent on going there every time. As a whole, Omnisphere is awesome and incredibly capable as a sound design platform. Nobody is denying that. But certain things within Omnisphere are simply missing or not possible to do. Complex routing is one of those things missing. That doesn't make it any less worthy but those things should still be discussed and pointed out when somebody asks. There's absolutely no need for you to white knight and defend Omnisphere's honor every time somebody criticizes it or points out some missing features. We all know it's a friggin awesome product!
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PabloHassan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 2:34 pm I disagree. The purpose behind Omnisphere is its deep synthesis capabilities.
"Deep" is in the eye of the beholder.. all depending on your experience and knowledge of other synthesizers. If all you care about is the end result, the sound output, then yes.. Omnisphere is "super deep" due to it's vast sample pool. When I talk about synthesis, I actually mean all the options you have to manipulate the sound to get to the end results. Those options are a bit limited in Omnisphere compared to some of the competition. Main culprit being the quite limited modulation matrix.

There are quite a few similar products that go way deeper with the synthesis options, for instance Alchemy 2, Arturia Pigments, VPS Avenger and UVI Falcon. Then again, none of those are even remotely close to the quality of sound sources available in Omnisphere. In this regard Omnisphere is completely in it's own universe. Nobody is even remotely close, software or hardware.

PabloHassan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 2:34 pm Here's an AI search saying the same:

Omnisphere is often described as an "instrument of extraordinary power and versatility," providing a "lifetime to explore" for sound designers.

:party: 8) :tu: :phones:

.. and that just shows how useless AI is at this moment in 2026 when you don't understand the context. Yes, it would take a lifetime or even thousands of years for all of mankind to explore every single possible combination of layering within Omnisphere.. but that doesn't mean it's got deep synthesis capabilities. That just means it's got a shit ton of sample content.
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I think combining OmniSphere with all it has, including sample content of course, with MuLab, could be cool. 8) 8)

MuLab has little sample content, but much capability. So there!!! :hihi: :hug: :hihi: :hug:

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bmanic wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 9:12 pm If you'd bother to actually read the full context, the FM I mentioned here was specifically answer to the question if you can frequency modulate the filters with an oscillator.. no, you can not.

And then I just added that complex oscillator modulations in general are not possible in Omnisphere. It's all "hard wired" per oscillator. This means that you can not modulate oscillator A with oscillator B.. so no FM between sample layers for instance. There's just a single built in FM modulator which includes all the VA like waveforms.. but that's hardly complex at all in terms of routing.

What seems to constantly trigger you is that you interpret everything to sound like "Omnisphere is simplistic and sucks!". I have absolutely no idea why you are so hell bent on going there every time. As a whole, Omnisphere is awesome and incredibly capable as a sound design platform. Nobody is denying that. But certain things within Omnisphere are simply missing or not possible to do. Complex routing is one of those things missing. That doesn't make it any less worthy but those things should still be discussed and pointed out when somebody asks. There's absolutely no need for you to white knight and defend Omnisphere's honor like a sad little simp every time somebody criticizes it or points out some missing features.
Wow nice baseless accusations there, I am not hellbent on anything. If you wanted to answer the question asked awesome I would have left it at that, but you went to to further state your own personal bias which you are hell bent on propagating
bmanic wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2026 10:12 pm
If you are looking for deep synthesis options, Omnisphere is not the correct synth for that.
Sorry that is simply not true

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Come on guys!!! It is obviously a deep, modern synthesizer! :tu: :arrow: :clap: :hug:

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bmanic wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 9:36 pm Main culprit being the quite limited modulation matrix.

There are quite a few similar products that go way deeper with the synthesis options, for instance Alchemy 2, Arturia Pigments, VPS Avenger and UVI Falcon.
Mod Matrix? Wow why are you so hell bent on spreading disinformation?

Omnisphere 3 has 51 sources of Modulation and hundreds of potential destinations. Why anyone would consider that "quite limited" is beyond me unless you have some kind of agenda to shit all over Omnisphere for some reason

Using it is dead simple also. No matter what page you are in you just right click on what you want to modulate and pick a source

To compare that with UVI Falcon it has 13 primary generators, you seem to think that's deep. Maybe you can explain why 13 is deep but 51 is quite limited?

To compare that with Arturia Pigments there are 28 sources and you seem for some reason to think 28 is deep but 51 is quite limited.

VPS Avenger is more than Pigments at 49 you seem to think that is deep but still loses to Omnisphere 3's 51

I don't have any experience with Avenger 2 maybe it has more I don't know, what I do know however is that any who claims the Modulation options on Omnisphere 3 are "quite limiting" obviously has either never used them or is pushing sone kind of agenda and deliberately spreading disinformation

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