Tracktion Software

Kiwiboyus · Post by **Kiwiboyus** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:39 pm

Does anyone know of a plug in that shows you what midi messages are being sent? I thinking of something that I could place infront of a drum VSTi that would let me see the incoming messages and make it easier for me to map.

The reason I'm asking is that I use Slicy Drummer in a demo of Sonar and pipe the midi into Tracktion via a virtual midi cable. The problem is what Slicy says it is sending never seems to match in Tracktion

The key is off or the notes don't seem to match up. I spend so much time trying to get everything set I end up just quiting.

Any idea?

fishbowl.tucson.az · Post by **fishbowl.tucson.az** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:47 pm

Kiwiboyus wrote:Does anyone know of a plug in that shows you what midi messages are being sent?

You need something that Midi-OX and Midi-Yoke won't do?

Kiwiboyus · Post by **Kiwiboyus** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:50 pm

fishbowl.tucson.az wrote:
Kiwiboyus wrote:Does anyone know of a plug in that shows you what midi messages are being sent?
You need something that Midi-OX and Midi-Yoke won't do?

I'm looking at midi ox, but that can't be inserted as a filter infront of a VSTi in Tracktion can it? It would have to be placed between the Sonar demo and Tracktion,
I guess that's not a big deal.

ost12666 · Post by **ost12666** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:17 pm

http://www.synthplug.prv.pl/

http://www.freewebz.com/wallyaudio/VST- ... onitor.htm

Kiwiboyus · Post by **Kiwiboyus** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:47 pm

ost12666 wrote:http://www.synthplug.prv.pl/

http://www.freewebz.com/wallyaudio/VST- ... onitor.htm

Thank you

fishbowl.tucson.az · Post by **fishbowl.tucson.az** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:23 am

Kiwiboyus wrote:
fishbowl.tucson.az wrote:
Kiwiboyus wrote:Does anyone know of a plug in that shows you what midi messages are being sent?
You need something that Midi-OX and Midi-Yoke won't do?
I'm looking at midi ox, but that can't be inserted as a filter infront of a VSTi in Tracktion can it? It would have to be placed between the Sonar demo and Tracktion,
I guess that's not a big deal.

I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but there is a whole class of problems that can be solved by running two (or more) instances of midi-ox. For instance, I have my controllers mapped to Yokes in one instance, and then the Yokes mapped to ports on my Edirol-UM-880 in another instance, some with data mapping and patch mapping in between.

So you could output to a Yoke (a virtual device) and connect that to another Yoke, and use that one for input. There's a ton of things you can do with this.

I'm surprised at how few alternatives there are to Midi-OX (and a bit scared, since the Midi-Ox people are doing other things now, and I cannot live without it.)

ci1874 · Post by **ci1874** » Sat May 14, 2005 10:04 pm

With my configuration, none of these monitors display the note name (eg D#2). They properly display the note number and velocity, but they all show C1 next to the note. Anyone know why this might be?

I am running a registered box copy of T2 and a M-Audio Radium 49 (usb). It records and sends midi to my instruments fine.

Thanks

malamut · Post by **malamut** » Sat May 14, 2005 10:10 pm

ci1874 wrote:With my configuration, none of these monitors display the note name (eg D#2). They properly display the note number and velocity, but they all show C1 next to the note. Anyone know why this might be?

I guess "C1" means "Midi channel Number 1". You will have to translate the note number to the conventional note name yourself, I'm afraid.

malamut

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Sat May 14, 2005 10:10 pm

ci1874 wrote:With my configuration, none of these monitors display the note name (eg D#2). They properly display the note number and velocity, but they all show C1 next to the note. Anyone know why this might be?

I am running a registered box copy of T2 and a M-Audio Radium 49 (usb). It records and sends midi to my instruments fine.

Thanks

Channel 1

ci1874 · Post by **ci1874** » Sat May 14, 2005 10:20 pm

FYI, I stuck C_Tuner (guitar tuner VST) in the line after the instrument (Slayer2 bass). It's reading the pitch of the audio, but it gives me the note name instantly - works great.

ci1874 · Post by **ci1874** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:21 pm

Encountering my frustration with this yet again, I thought I'd bump this thread. Anyone found a midi monitor that displays note names (eg, C#2) as well as velocity, etc? My way is stupid.

The note names & octaves are extremely helpful for non-piano players and people who have small keyboards and have to shift their octaves up and down.

It's also nice to be able to put this after midi effects so you can see whats really happening to velocity and other data.

This was a great feature on the transport in Logic, and I'd love to see it available on the front of Tracktion, or as a native filter like the level and pan meters...

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:55 pm

It is better to map everything with midi numbers as oppose to notes.
There is no standard setting for notes.
Midi note number 48 can be C-1 or C0 or C1 depending on how you set up the "middle C" in Tracktion's Setting page.

The simplest thing to do is to record the incoming midi note, then zoom into the piano roll and click the note. In the property panel (at the bottom of the screen) you will have both the midi number and the note assigned by Tracktion.

MIDI-OX and MID-YOKE are amazing midi tools that can do almost anything but it has a learning curve and you don't need it for just finding out midi number or notes.
On the other hand if you want to make changes to midi data in real time MIDI-OX is your best friend.

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