New problem when recording
- KVRist
- 479 posts since 9 Jan, 2023
So, the past few projects I've done have been recording straight into Waveform (13). Was still adjusting to minor things, but today something major stopped me in my tracks (no pun intended).
Having not changed anything, today the recorded tracks kept coming in a beat late on playback. I re-checked the audio set-up in settings. Was fine. Went ahead and turned off live monitoring just in case. No go. Restarted my PC. Nope. Even reinstalled the software. Nothing.
It's not latency. Again, I didn't change any settings with respect to that -- and it had been working and recording just fine until today. But it was always a beat late coming in, which made recording additional tracks impossible, since I like to emphasize the first beat.
Any suggestions/thoughts?
Having not changed anything, today the recorded tracks kept coming in a beat late on playback. I re-checked the audio set-up in settings. Was fine. Went ahead and turned off live monitoring just in case. No go. Restarted my PC. Nope. Even reinstalled the software. Nothing.
It's not latency. Again, I didn't change any settings with respect to that -- and it had been working and recording just fine until today. But it was always a beat late coming in, which made recording additional tracks impossible, since I like to emphasize the first beat.
Any suggestions/thoughts?
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- KVRist
- 374 posts since 18 Nov, 2023
2 beats or 1 bar are the smallest values which can be set for the count-in of a click. But 1 beat? No idea.
Classical guitar --> Line Audio CM4 @ SSL12 --> KDE-Plasma @ Debian-Linux --> Waveform PRO 13.5
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- KVRAF
- 1596 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
The only time anything like this happened to me was caused by a plugin that audio was passing through. Disabling the plugin put everything right (it was a reverb plugin or something like that).
But I imagine you'd remember if you recently added a plugin between the last time it worked and this next time that it didn't.
Is it just this project? Or can you replicate this on other projects?
But I imagine you'd remember if you recently added a plugin between the last time it worked and this next time that it didn't.
Is it just this project? Or can you replicate this on other projects?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 479 posts since 9 Jan, 2023
Hmm...not sure. Put all my gear away for the day, but will try it in different projects in the morning and give you a heads-up.Watchful wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 6:13 pm The only time anything like this happened to me was caused by a plugin that audio was passing through. Disabling the plugin put everything right (it was a reverb plugin or something like that).
But I imagine you'd remember if you recently added a plugin between the last time it worked and this next time that it didn't.
Is it just this project? Or can you replicate this on other projects?
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- KVRAF
- 1596 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
Not sure if it's the audio interface. There are a couple of places latency could be introduced. Interesting that it's off by 1 beat, though. That's weirdly specific.
I wonder if that's coincidental. Changing the BPM of the metronome would confirm that.
I wonder if that's coincidental. Changing the BPM of the metronome would confirm that.
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- KVRian
- 1205 posts since 29 Aug, 2014
This is audio or MIDI? What is the reference you're adding on top of (i.e. a click track or loop)?
For some reason, and I don't remember setting it, somehow my audio offset had been set to something unexpected; and the only thing I could think of that I thought I had changed was the input gain on audio...
For some reason, and I don't remember setting it, somehow my audio offset had been set to something unexpected; and the only thing I could think of that I thought I had changed was the input gain on audio...
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- KVRAF
- 1596 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
I presume it's audio, knowing a little about how Tony records. If it's MIDI, though, that's a different animal and might be some quantization setting that's too rigid.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 479 posts since 9 Jan, 2023
Yeah, it's audio. Playing an acoustic guitar into an SM58 into a Behringer UMC204HD.
I'm using Waveform's default click, emphasizing the 1.
I'm using Waveform's default click, emphasizing the 1.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 479 posts since 9 Jan, 2023
Okay, so I just went back in and tried it. It does that now in all projects.
Don't get it. Like I said, I left all the settings on the Behringer the same, the audio settings in WF the same. Not sure what's the issue.
Don't get it. Like I said, I left all the settings on the Behringer the same, the audio settings in WF the same. Not sure what's the issue.
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- KVRAF
- 1596 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
It's not the metronome, is it? Is it clicking on 2 or 4, throwing you off? I recall you saying the recording is off when you're recording and you can hear everything.
If it happens now in any project, that tells me it doesn't matter what the project BPM is set to...it's consistently off by one beat. That rules out a lot...such as the driver or audio interface.
Weird thought, but what happens if you record without the metronome and instead use a Tony-made click track?
If it happens now in any project, that tells me it doesn't matter what the project BPM is set to...it's consistently off by one beat. That rules out a lot...such as the driver or audio interface.
Weird thought, but what happens if you record without the metronome and instead use a Tony-made click track?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 479 posts since 9 Jan, 2023
All right...Watchful wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2026 12:21 pm It's not the metronome, is it? Is it clicking on 2 or 4, throwing you off? I recall you saying the recording is off when you're recording and you can hear everything.
If it happens now in any project, that tells me it doesn't matter what the project BPM is set to...it's consistently off by one beat. That rules out a lot...such as the driver or audio interface.
Weird thought, but what happens if you record without the metronome and instead use a Tony-made click track?
I'm embarrassed to say, but when I reset both the input and output devices within WF's settings area, that fixed it.
I'm so sorry, guys. But I do appreciate y'all brainstorming the problem with me.
I was able to do all my desired tracks for this project this morning.
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- KVRAF
- 1596 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
Wow. No apologies needed. What caused THAT?!?
I frequently need to reset my devices from WF as well--or I get a build-up of static on some takes and not others. But your situation is totally new to me. So glad you got that sorted.
Now more than ever I wish I could assign a hot key to the ability to reset input and output. It happens a lot.
Also glad you got all that work done!
I frequently need to reset my devices from WF as well--or I get a build-up of static on some takes and not others. But your situation is totally new to me. So glad you got that sorted.
Now more than ever I wish I could assign a hot key to the ability to reset input and output. It happens a lot.
Also glad you got all that work done!
Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, and even Deezer, whatever the hell Deezer is.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 479 posts since 9 Jan, 2023
Watchful wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2026 4:44 pm Wow. No apologies needed. What caused THAT?!?
I frequently need to reset my devices from WF as well--or I get a build-up of static on some takes and not others. But your situation is totally new to me. So glad you got that sorted.
Now more than ever I wish I could assign a hot key to the ability to reset input and output. It happens a lot.
Also glad you got all that work done!
