Vibe coded plugins

[Korg Supporter]

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[seangm]

I only use vibe coded plugins now, I removed any plugins that aren't vibe coded. I'm all in on vibe coding.

[foosnark]

Devs have been copy-pasting code in the wild for years. This is just the next evolution.

As a veteran software developer... it really isn't.

It's not unusual I'll look online for a solution to a small coding problem, because chances are good someone else has encountered it. Maybe it's unclear documentation, a workaround for a Microsoft bug, etc. Or I'll even grab a whole class or function. But this will be from a website or blog specifically by and for developers, it will have already been tested, there'll be discussion about it and bad answers will be rejected by the community. And I'll read it, use my own judgement about its suitability, learn from it, and know how to adapt it to the code base I'm working on.


Vibe coding is like a person who doesn't know how to code, asking a parrot who's hung around a lot of programmers (some of whom aren't very good) to do a job neither of them is really equipped for.

[ksandvik]

If I had developers that copy/pasted without knowing what the code did, I would put them into a room and have a very serious conversation with them.

[sin night]

My main concern is if the company providing me a certain piece of software is able to fix it and keep it working in the long run.


I think someone with some understanding about code should be involved while developing a product… let’s say you have an idea and you you turn it into something through “vibe coding”: I think you should be able to look at the code and say “this looks good”/“this could be done in a better way”/“this is wrong” (or have someone do it for you) and be able to get your hand dirty with the code if something needs an intervention… you should be able to tell what’s going on under the hood.

When I buy (from a reputable vendor) a piece of software developed in a “traditional way”, I assume the developers are able to maintain it. The technical know how is one of the reasons why I decide to spend my money on a certain product.

And to make it clear, for me it’s not a matter of price tag, I don’t care if a vibe coded plugin is cheaper, if I add something to my setup/workflow, it’s a long term choice usually, so any tool must meet certain quality standards…


If my guts tell me a piece of software is likely to be properly supported in the long run, then I’d probably buy it, otherwise it’s very likely I won’t.

So, I’m not very keen on using/buying the result of some vibe coding, but using traditional development techniques doesn’t mean I’ll be less picky, I won’t use a product which is not up to my standards, regardless of how it has been made.


My choices are not always right of course… but I think I can often smell when something is off…

[pekbro]

I do think there’s a bit of paranoia about this, at least regarding some assumptions made against recent new developers that I personally think were unfounded.

And no I’m not going to name them. Also, I have programming background myself, so it’s not a blind assumption thing.

One guy even has a PhD in electrical engineering and he was accused of it.

[Dirtgrain]

I would not diminish the impact that slop is having on the market right now. Our forum has been inundated with a heap of new one-trick, so-so plugins of late. Is there any better way to sift the turds from the good ones than to have people question each new one as it is announced?

[martinjuenke]

I only use vibe coded plugins now, I removed any plugins that aren't vibe coded. I'm all in on vibe coding.

Hope this gives you good vibrations.

[billinder33]

I would not diminish the impact that slop is having on the market right now. Our forum has been inundated with a heap of new one-trick, so-so plugins of late. Is there any better way to sift the turds from the good ones than to have people question each new one as it is announced?

As opposed to prior years where we were inundated with emulations that were supposed to be the most analogy sounding analog units that ever analoged?

I don't see the 'inundation' that you're lamenting. This board and the New Product Releases board on that 'Spacy' forum have been mostly dead in recent months. Main difference I see is that the newer releases are from devs with no track record and they aren't rehashing old concepts, they are bringing new ideas to the table. Probably the worst aspect I see is the UI designs in many cases are suboptimal, but that's likely something that AI can't help much with. It's hard to train an AI on 'usability'.

The vibe coding is allowing smaller devs to build novel, forward-thinking units without having to worry as much about broad market acceptance because the barrier to entry is so low. They can rapidly build, release, update, and bug fix based on feedback from testers and users at a pace never seen before. They can create the things they alway wanted and share them with the rest of us.

I've got a couple of recent releases I'm certain were mostly if not entirely vibe coded. Things I've wanted for years that have such niche appeal that the larger, established devs can't bring to market due to the ROI requirements. Personally I'm rooting for these guys. Open the flood gates I say!!!!

[El°HYM]

The main problem might be, that now the bad boys can just prompt out crypto miners and offer those as shiny new whatever freebie. Something to concern at least, aside the maybe overwhelming flood of new plugins entering the stage. So far, some are actually quite good, yet seeing new developers with 2 posts, offering a new one daily now, might lead to exhaustion on the long run.

This thread was also vibe coded btw. - the original is here:
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[sin night]

I’m not really worried about crypto-miners and such. I mean: it was already possible to make malign tools with traditional techniques, the only things changing are the lower entry barrier for this kind of scams and the fact that it probably makes more sense for criminals to target multiple pretty obscure niches rather than making one “mainstream” product (reaching more users at once, but with an higher chance of being found out as well). Maybe there will be more malign tools around, but that’s not my main concern.


This looks like a supply chain subject to me (which is extremely important, of course!). Sticking with tools from reputable devs lowers any risk in a significant way.
Unfortunately there’s much more to it, reputation alone is not enough (take for example suffered by npm at the beginning of this month), but it’s decent as a first filter…

[mystran]

Does it qualify as "vibe coding" if you get good vibes writing code yourself?

[Dirtgrain]

I don't see the 'inundation' that you're lamenting.

I am not lamenting. It is my impression, as one who reads the forums daily, that there has been a notable uptick in new plugin posts in the last two months. It does not seem comparable to the pace of analogue emulation plugins being developed over the last five years (not sure why you brought it up). I don't care to quantify this scientifically, and I'm fine with you seeing it differently (feel free to make a poll if you want to get to the bottom of this--or maybe AI could do it for you).

I've got a couple of recent releases I'm certain were mostly if not entirely vibe coded.

Why not mention them by name?

[TheMaestro]

I can't code, but I've made my own Chords plugin, an Audio/Beat Slicer, a YT audio downloader, a Stem Separator, and a 3 osc Synth with a choice of digital and analoge filters, effects (master/per osc), envelopes, etc, etc, and several very useful Reaper scripts. All with AI.

[pdxindy]

Vibe coding is like a person who doesn't know how to code, asking a parrot who's hung around a lot of programmers (some of whom aren't very good) to do a job neither of them is really equipped for.

It's likely going to be a short lived phenomena. The cost is higher than most will want to pay and the AI companies can only keep losing money for so long before the venture capital runs dry.