waveform editing?

[jpf228]

Hi all-
New to traktion...is there any waveform editing capability in traktion. For exampe, if I have a loud pop on a vocal track that is otherwise perfect, can i smooth it out? Change the wave itself?

Please let me know as this is an important feature to me.

Thanks!
-Josh

[edelweiss]

The options for internal audio editing in T1 are extremely limited, however T2 may be a different story, we'll have to wait and see.

The is an option to "link an external audio editor (of your choice) to T1...

personally, I use "Audacity" for 3 reasons...it works, it's cross-platform and it's free...

You can find it here...

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

[IIRs]

Well, you can't really fix it destructively, but there are still ways to do it in T1:

Either: zoom in tight so you can see the audio spike clearly. select the clip and split it around the spike with the "/" key. Now select just the small problem clip, and drop the gain in its properties panel till it no longer leaps out. Once the level seems ok you can slip edit the starts and ends to the least audible points, and if needed, overlap both ends slightly and press "auto-crossfade".

Or: drag an extra Vol/Pan filter to the track. drag the automation "A" to the filter and select "volume". Now zoom right in and draw a dip in the volume around your spike.. leave the rest of the track at unity, as normal volume adjustments can still be made with the original Vol/Pan filter.

both these methods have the advantage (over destructive editing) of allowing you to change your mind and adjust things at any point in the future..

[P.T.]

There is nothing in T1 that would be capable of editing out a pop or click. You would need an extenal editor with an auto click remover or a drawing tool. The free audacity can do that.

[IIRs]

There is nothing in T1 that would be capable of editing out a pop or click. You would need an extenal editor with an auto click remover or a drawing tool. The free audacity can do that.

Thats a bit sweeping isn't it? Curing a click might be as simple as dragging a tiny fade-in at the start of a clip..

[P.T.]

I don't think you could get rid of a quik transient like a click with a fade, even if it was at the beginning of a track. But that is only a very special situation. Clicks can happen anywhere in a track and you will need a drawing tool to reshape the wave at the sample level or else an editor that has a dedicated click remover.

[C00kie]

If the click happened while the appropriate signal is silent, then a quick fade out/in will solve it 4 sure!

Original question: Change the wave itself?
Answer: no. Use an external audio editor for that.

[haydxn]

don't be silly PT edelweiss's suggestions are perfectly capable of removing a click or something similar. yes to properly and totally accurately remove a click you should draw it out on the sample level..

but there are loads of ways of solving such a problem in T1. Okay if you were to compare the end results of a sample edited version and a T 'compromise' solution version under a microscope then sure you'd probably see differences, but at the end of the day, in a mix, only a robot would hear it. and he wouldn't have anything useful to say anyway.

[jpf228]

Thanks all for your helpful responses! I have downloaded Audacity but haven't used it yet...it seems like it will do what I want - to be able to re-draw the wave itself. Now another question:

Do I use Audacity as a plugin or as a standalone program? In other words, will it work inside Traktion or will I have to export the .wav of the offending track, edit it in Audacity, then put it back into Traktion?

And it does work inside Traktion as a plugin, will I need to leave it applied to the track after I do the edit or can I take it off after redrawing, thus saving CPU power?

Thanks again!

[Lunch Money]

Audacity will not run from within Tracktion. You load your .wav into it, edit the .wav (destructively, so keep a copy if you think you'll need it and even if you're not sure) and then load it back into Tracktion.

I find the integration between Tracktion and Audacity to be less than stellar. Supposedly, if you launch Audacity from within T, you can edit and then the new .wav will basically 'replace' the original in the Tracktion edit. Doesn't work for me. I have to save in Audacity with a different filename, and then use T's "change source info" (I think that's what it's called, don't have T right in front of me) to point to the new file.

Greg

[nuisance sonore]

That's a limitation of audacity I think. It will only allow rendering to a new file, won't apply changes to the source file so as far as integration with T goes, it pretty much suck.
Audition on the other hand is a joy to use, just open the audio file in it from T and it will even start playing once open, make your change, save, return to T and the change is immediately applied.

[IIRs]

Acoustica has some pretty good noise reduction algo's is dead cheap, works as Tracktion's external editor, and has a 30 day free trial period..

[Lunch Money]

I'm still interested in Acoustica-- will it apply the changes "on the fly" the way Ezy describes Audition doing? Or is it limited in the same way Audacity is?

Greg

[IIRs]

It works perfectly as Tracktion's external editor if thats what you mean: you can open a file in Acoustica from the right-click menu of Tracktion, and pressing save in Acoustica updates the clip in Tracktion..

[AD80]

Audition on the other hand is a joy to use, just open the audio file in it from T and it will even start playing once open, make your change, save, return to T and the change is immediately applied.

Damn right . Just hit control-W and you have all the editing you could ever want. Then when you save it automatically redraws the waveform inside T. I love it.