Zebra 3 3.0 RC1 Revision 21793

[bmanic]

The "mouse glitch issue": COPY PASTE from the previous thread, as I didn't notice there was one final version still.

Okay, according to that site, moving the mouse in circles gives me a polling rate of 470Hz.

Thanks. It matters because it doesn’t happen anywhere else, and it’s hard to fix an issue which we cannot reproduce. If you find the time to test the Hide Mouse on Drag feature with another mouse, that would be much appreciated.

System: Mac Mini M1, Sonoma 14.6.2, Reaper (latest version as of this writing), Zebra 3 VST3 plugin version.

Sorry for the very late report on this. I now have tried this with two other mice and all of the issues still persist. The only one that feels acceptably fast when mouse cursor is hidden, is the mouse with the slowest polling rate. Here is the rundown:

1) Logitech G203, my original main mouse. Polling rate 470Hz.

- Randomly glitchy knob behavior, no matter how fast or slow you tweak a knob. They randomly glitch and jump.. sometimes suddenly jumping to 0% or to 100% of the range.

- "Hide mouse on drag = ON". This makes the response of the knobs feel like dragging them through mud. It takes extremely large movements to get a knob from 0 to 100%, literally several swipes over the whole mouse pad (I measured it to about 30cm physical travel on the pad).


2) Wife's Steelseries Kinzu v3. Polling rate 260Hz.

- Randomly glitchy knob behavior, no matter how fast or slow you tweak a knob. They randomly glitch and jump.. sometimes suddenly jumping to 0% or to 100% of the range.

- "Hide mouse on drag = ON". Slightly better response on knobs. Still feels like it's dragged through mud though. Wouldn't be fun to use.


3) Kid's super basic and cheap Logitech mouse that comes with a keyboard. No idea what model but the whole set costs like 30 euros for both keyboard and mouse. Polling rate 103Hz.

- Randomly glitchy knob behavior, no matter how fast or slow you tweak a knob. I think I got a little less sudden jumps with this one and I can't remember getting sudden extreme jumps. It is however glitchy and sometimes the knob goes the opposite way of the mouse drag (mouse + click/drag going down, yet knob going up).

- "Hide mouse on drag = ON". This mouse is acceptable with this setting. It's still at the edge of being annoyingly slow but at least I could work with this for a little while.


Sorry once again for being so late with this. I just didn't get enough time as I hoped and only got around to doing this today. Anyhow, I'm sure you guys will figure this out at some point. Good luck and fortune with the release. I've of course purchased a copy and look forward to the many years of awesomeness with this marvel you all have created!

[Eluwei]

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[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

The "mouse glitch issue": COPY PASTE from the previous thread, as I didn't notice there was one final version still.

Okay, according to that site, moving the mouse in circles gives me a polling rate of 470Hz.

Thanks. It matters because it doesn’t happen anywhere else, and it’s hard to fix an issue which we cannot reproduce. If you find the time to test the Hide Mouse on Drag feature with another mouse, that would be much appreciated.

System: Mac Mini M1, Sonoma 14.6.2, Reaper (latest version as of this writing), Zebra 3 VST3 plugin version.

Sorry for the very late report on this. I now have tried this with two other mice and all of the issues still persist. The only one that feels acceptably fast when mouse cursor is hidden, is the mouse with the slowest polling rate. Here is the rundown:

1) Logitech G203, my original main mouse. Polling rate 470Hz.

- Randomly glitchy knob behavior, no matter how fast or slow you tweak a knob. They randomly glitch and jump.. sometimes suddenly jumping to 0% or to 100% of the range.

- "Hide mouse on drag = ON". This makes the response of the knobs feel like dragging them through mud. It takes extremely large movements to get a knob from 0 to 100%, literally several swipes over the whole mouse pad (I measured it to about 30cm physical travel on the pad).


2) Wife's Steelseries Kinzu v3. Polling rate 260Hz.

- Randomly glitchy knob behavior, no matter how fast or slow you tweak a knob. They randomly glitch and jump.. sometimes suddenly jumping to 0% or to 100% of the range.

- "Hide mouse on drag = ON". Slightly better response on knobs. Still feels like it's dragged through mud though. Wouldn't be fun to use.


3) Kid's super basic and cheap Logitech mouse that comes with a keyboard. No idea what model but the whole set costs like 30 euros for both keyboard and mouse. Polling rate 103Hz.

- Randomly glitchy knob behavior, no matter how fast or slow you tweak a knob. I think I got a little less sudden jumps with this one and I can't remember getting sudden extreme jumps. It is however glitchy and sometimes the knob goes the opposite way of the mouse drag (mouse + click/drag going down, yet knob going up).

- "Hide mouse on drag = ON". This mouse is acceptable with this setting. It's still at the edge of being annoyingly slow but at least I could work with this for a little while.


Sorry once again for being so late with this. I just didn't get enough time as I hoped and only got around to doing this today. Anyhow, I'm sure you guys will figure this out at some point. Good luck and fortune with the release. I've of course purchased a copy and look forward to the many years of awesomeness with this marvel you all have created!

Seems weird that it's happening on all mice, but you're basically the only one reporting it.

Random thoughts: what's your screen resolution / scaling in the OS and plugin? Happens with the CLAP version too I assume?

[bmanic]

Yeah, it is indeed weird. It's even more weird considering this is the ONLY U-He plugin that does it. Heck it's the only software, period, that does this.

Yes, happens with the CLAP version as well.

I even installed Logitech G Hub just to test all the polling rate options and everything available there.. no help. When I set it to the smallest polling possible (125Hz) I get similar results to the cheap mouse my son has. Glitches still happen but at this low polling rate the "hide mouse cursor on drag = on" is acceptable.

Resolution of monitor is 1920x1080.. an old HP 23xi monitor. Don't see how this could be the issue when it works everywhere else.

[Eluwei]

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[exmatproton]

Seems weird that it's happening on all mice, but you're basically the only one reporting it.

Random thoughts: what's your screen resolution / scaling in the OS and plugin? Happens with the CLAP version too I assume?

Noticing this as well. Vst3, clap.
Didn't bother writing it down here, since it is really not often and (here at least) it doesn't really affect the the usage of the plugin. It is indeed weird though that i don't have this on any other U-He plugin. Although, this could be due to the fact that they have changed the graphical inner workings?

[Eluwei]

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[pekbro]

This keeps switching back to beta user, no matter how many times I import my card.
Not to mention I deleted the beta card. FYI

win 11

[Urs]

This keeps switching back to beta user, no matter how many times I import my card.
Not to mention I deleted the beta card. FYI

win 11

Sounds like definitely not the RC with revision 21793... maybe contact our support about it...

[aMUSEd]

28 more Modal Profiles completed, with the theme of featuring high frequency harmonic chime-like sounds over an acoustic resonator tuned to the fundamental; all building blocks for upcoming new patches.

Completely swept away by the Modal Sweep and Scatter features...

Again, Z3 is a masterpiece.

How do you make them?

[Eluwei]

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[Urs]

Somewhat mysterious, is that many of the factory modal profiles are formatted in different ways [...]

Different sources: Tube, String are created from code, others have been created from our spectrum analyser, then maybe edited from hand, or maybe written from Python scripts that would average from multiple iterations of similar profiles, and then we also have a secret set of parameters in the Modal Resonator to modify and save versions. Each method may have different formatting...

[Eluwei]

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[Urs]

Post normalise gain: Our importer attempts to normalise the spectrum to create equal loudness no matter what is chosen, but that may result in slight differences which then humans can correct by setting a post normlise gain of up to +/- 12 or so dB

[Eluwei]

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