How to do Ableton´s Resonators FX in Bitwig natively?

[Trancit]

As the title says... is there any way for pitch tuned delays with high feedback done with Bitwig natives?? Best with note input/keyboard tracking?

I only know recreations of this kind of effect with keytracked flangers (i.e. FL Studio has a very nice Patcher recreation made by Youlean) but I don´t know if this would perhaps possible with comb filters (while this may sound different) ...

I am not so much of an electronic engineer but have tried to use pitch values on i.e. the Grid´s long delay but it doesn´t accept it...
So I don´t have really any idea how to start experimenting...

[Tj Shredder]

There is a keytrack modulator you could use to modulate the pitch of a comb filter.
I did some sort of Karplus synthesis in the Grid in the past which works ok…
So yes, you can experiment with native Bitwig devices in that field…

[Trancit]

There is a keytrack modulator you could use to modulate the pitch of a comb filter.
I did some sort of Karplus synthesis in the Grid in the past which works ok…
So yes, you can experiment with native Bitwig devices in that field…

Thx for the response...
I tried around with comb filters but they didn´t give that sound I am looking for...

Maybe I need to try more indepth...

[Tj Shredder]

As you mentioned a flanger, try to transpose it down some octaves, as flangers work with much longer delay times as a typical Karplus-Strong algorithm… And modulate it as well. If you want to having it sound like you expect, there is no way around learning how things work… I have no idea how that specific patch sounded…

[Trancit]

As you mentioned a flanger, try to transpose it down some octaves, as flangers work with much longer delay times as a typical Karplus-Strong algorithm… And modulate it as well. If you want to having it sound like you expect, there is no way around learning how things work… I have no idea how that specific patch sounded…

The main problem with the Comb Filter is that it let´s far far far too much of the original drumloop (I tried with) through... there is somehow (for me) no way I can find to make the signal more "wet"... maybe I am doing something wrong...

[VVRV]

Isn't Bitwig's native Resonator Bank device suitable for this?

[Trancit]

Isn't Bitwig's native Resonator Bank device suitable for this?

No, it´s purely filter based to emphazise chosen frequencies with high resonance to give i.e. Percussions a "tone"...

Ableton´s Resonator is based on tuned delays which smears the tonal character

This is the dry Loop, Ableton´s Resonator (respectively FLS´recreation with tuned flangers...very close to Ableton´s Resonator) and Bitwig´s Resonator Bank:

[Dionysos]

Have you searched Polarity's youtube channel for this? It's a total guess, but it sounds like something he'd have covered.

[Trancit]

Have you searched Polarity's youtube channel for this? It's a total guess, but it sounds like something he'd have covered.

Sadly he´s just into tuned filters in this regard... many different videos about high res Karplus stuff but I am not aware of anything like Ableton´s Resonators...

At the very end it´s not that important... Rift´s delay has a very nice tuned section and kHs Resonator works good enough too...
I was just wondering if there is a way to keytrack Bitwig´s flanger or any delay grid modules to get the same effect...

[VVRV]

Isn't Bitwig's native Resonator Bank device suitable for this?

No, it´s purely filter based to emphazise chosen frequencies with high resonance to give i.e. Percussions a "tone"...

Ableton´s Resonator is based on tuned delays which smears the tonal character

This is the dry Loop, Ableton´s Resonator (respectively FLS´recreation with tuned flangers...very close to Ableton´s Resonator) and Bitwig´s Resonator Bank:

Wow! The difference is huge! Didn't know these resonators differ in core principles.