Fender Studio Pro 8 Released

[Vocalpoint Studios]

Not quite. Releasing when they're ready but charging after a year of updates (there may be none). Worst of both worlds.

Annual updates - has nothing to do with any release schedule.

You can always not pay and simply go perpetual (and free) - forever.

You can't complain about "free".

VP

[soulata]

Not quite. Releasing when they're ready but charging after a year of updates (there may be none). Worst of both worlds.

Annual updates - has nothing to do with any release schedule.

You can always not pay and simply go perpetual (and free) - forever.

You can't complain about "free".

VP

I wans't saying they were changing. But - one used to get updates form version X to version X+1 for free. Not the case anymore. Updates (there might be none and to be honest, I don't care as much as it seems by my writing) are free for a year now.

When they came up with v7 it seemed like a fair trade (in theory), more meaningful updates, one year of them free. Now...not so much.

But I am not complaining, just commenting on a fact.

I think I came across as really angry about it which I am not. At all.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

But - one used to get updates form version X to version X+1 for free. Not the case anymore.

That changed back on Oct 9, 2024 - a very long time ago. And has been discussed to death.

Either you are OK with it or you are not. In either case - at least you get something for your choice.

I think I came across as really angry about it which I am not. At all.

You did seem very angry.

VP

[soulata]

But - one used to get updates form version X to version X+1 for free. Not the case anymore.

That changed back on Oct 9, 2024 - a very long time ago. And has been discussed to death.

Either you are OK with it or you are not. In either case - at least you get something for your choice.

I think I came across as really angry about it which I am not. At all.

You did seem very angry.

VP

I am not ok with the change but upgraded from v6 to v8 because there were improvements done esp for M series of processors. v8 is fine. I like it. I liked v6 as well.

I also vote left even when the right promises lower taxes.

It's the forums, there's no tone of voice. I don't do smilies that much

[Vocalpoint Studios]

I am not ok with the change but upgraded from v6 to v8 because there were improvements done esp for M series of processors. v8 is fine. I like it. I liked v6 as well.

I am fine with it as it sustains development and allows them to continue to get me new versions of our favorite DAW.

And let's be honest - back in the day -(pre-v7) Presonus used to release a major Studio One update every 2 years or so like clockwork and most of us never said a single thing about scrambling to find our credit cards and drop $149.00 every single time a huge new version arrived.

All this Updates plan did was shrink that window from 2 years to one. I have no issue supporting those guys.

It's the forums, there's no tone of voice. I don't do smilies that much

It's all good. Rock on.

VP

[Crossinger]

Personally, I think Fender/Presonus has lost its way since v7. But I’m not complaining, because that happens to all vendors at some point. And there are examples in the past where the upgrades of some competitors did shine again (e.g., Cubase 14, Ableton 12, but also the brand-new Reason 14).

I didn’t find any exciting stuff in v8 and don’t expect anything exciting in the upcoming updates (speaking of v8.1 or whatever it is called). So I’ll stick with v7 for the time being, and hope for the best if v9 is released someday.

[EnGee]

I'm very pleased with v8! So much that I uninstalled Cubase and Ableton Live and just kept SP8 and Reason!

I like the performance improvements (faster loading/exiting), the Mustang and Rumble amps and the overall enhancements.

I'm not sure however, if I'm going to like v9! I hope they don't follow Logic steps and fill it with AI trash. But of course, I can just keep using v8 in that case. I also have my eyes on the Linux version development (although, to be honest, I'm fine using Windows 11 on my Ryzen 5800x PC which is still working very well with my soft synths/instruments and guitar/Bass audio recording).

[Muziksculp]

I'm very pleased with v8! So much that I uninstalled Cubase and Ableton Live and just kept SP8 and Reason!

I like the performance improvements (faster loading/exiting), the Mustang and Rumble amps and the overall enhancements.

I'm not sure however, if I'm going to like v9! I hope they don't follow Logic steps and fill it with AI trash. But of course, I can just keep using v8 in that case. I also have my eyes on the Linux version development (although, to be honest, I'm fine using Windows 11 on my Ryzen 5800x PC which is still working very well with my soft synths/instruments and guitar/Bass audio recording).

Hi @EnGee ,

How is Fender Studo Pro 8 when you have it running a large template, i.e. 200 or more Instrument Tracks at low-buffer settings, i.e. 128 0r 256 samples ?

I'm just curious to know if it gets less responsive, i.e. and sluggish with high Instrument track counts.

Thanks

[EnGee]

Hi @EnGee ,

How is Fender Studo Pro 8 when you have it running a large template, i.e. 200 or more Instrument Tracks at low-buffer settings, i.e. 128 0r 256 samples ?

I'm just curious to know if it gets less responsive, i.e. and sluggish with high Instrument track counts.

Thanks

I have no idea! I'm very old fashion when it comes to tracking. Never exceeded 16 tracks with 128 samples buffer size! Sorry, I'm the wrong guy to ask about this

[BONES]

Don't apologise, that just shows you're nota clueless idiot. IN all 8 of our albums, I don't think I've ever come close to using 16 tracks, even when I used to separate our drums. The norm these days would be 6-8 instrument tracks and 2-3 vocal tracks.

Either you are OK with it or you are not. In either case - at least you get something for your choice.

It worked out quite well for me, in that I didn't see the value in upgrading to v7 when it was released, but after a couple of those regular updates, it eventually felt like a worthwhile thing to pay for. By delaying, I ended up qualifying for v8 for free, making the last paid upgrade doubly good value.

I am fine with it as it sustains development and allows them to continue to get me new versions of our favorite DAW.

Why is that important? Doesn't it already give you more than everything you need? The main reason I keep updating is for added reliability. V8 was great at first but lately quite a few of my newer projects are starting to freeze/crash Studio Pro when I close them. It's not a deal-breaker, because I never lose any work, but sometimes it can be really f**king annoying.

Presonus used to release a major Studio One update every 2 years or so like clockwork and most of us never said a single thing about scrambling to find our credit cards and drop $149.00 every single time a huge new version arrived.

I complained bitterly, every time. I just don't see how a product that costs what Studio One/Pro costs can justify $149 for an upgrade. Maybe if you can find a use for every, single new feature, but I am only paying in the hope that it will be more stable than the previous version. Seriously, I started using Studio One at v5.2 and in the time since then, the only new features I've incorporated into my workflow are the ability to customise the toolbars and the extended colour palette we have for making tracks look pretty. There is no way that's worth $149 and I have been asked to do it three times since I bought in.

How is Fender Studo Pro 8 when you have it running a large template, i.e. 200 or more Instrument Tracks at low-buffer settings, i.e. 128 0r 256 samples ?

Who the f**k does that? That's absolutely absurd.

[Crossinger]

How is Fender Studo Pro 8 when you have it running a large template, i.e. 200 or more Instrument Tracks at low-buffer settings, i.e. 128 0r 256 samples ?

Who the f**k does that? That's absolutely absurd.

Film composing or sketching orchestral pieces.

[Trancit]

nevermind...

[jens]

I don't think I've ever come close to using 16 tracks, even when I used to separate our drums. The norm these days would be 6-8 instrument tracks and 2-3 vocal tracks.

Same here... personally I don't think there's much point in keeping to add tracks to a song in hopes of at some point finally coming up with one that sucks less than the others...

[BONES]

Yeah, I spend a fair amount of time looking at ways to reduce my track counts, of seeing if one instrument could maybe play two parts. When I add an extra part to a song, I'll always see if that makes another part, that isn't contributing anything of value to the piece, redundant. I've always felt that the more you complicate things, the harder it becomes to get a good result. The K.I.S.S. principle applies in spades to music production (or it should).

Film composing or sketching orchestral pieces.

200 instruments!?! A whole symphony orchestra is only 80 or so instruments and can be perfectly replicated with a single sample library. If you need 200 instruments to do film scoring, you can't possibly have the first clue what you're doing. You'd absolutely never be able to get anything done.

[Crossinger]

Film composing or sketching orchestral pieces.

200 instruments!?! A whole symphony orchestra is only 80 or so instruments and can be perfectly replicated with a single sample library. If you need 200 instruments to do film scoring, you can't possibly have the first clue what you're doing. You'd absolutely never be able to get anything done.

Hey, don’t shoot the messenger I don’t do this myself, but I just wanted to provide an answer. I saw this several times when I had my “film scoring” phase and watched many YT videos. Here’s one quick example (but typical for many others):