What is up with your text formatting? are your posts poetry? Cool you are into emdashes too. I don't even know how to type those.enroe wrote: Mon May 18, 2026 5:14 pmOh — what an insight!bermudagold wrote: Mon May 18, 2026 8:32 am i'm not with the juvenile trend driven by social media and the right wing to demonize and denigrate academia and intelligentsia and wrap everything in conspiracy theories ... the internet has made people devalue REAL SMEs and REAL subject matter expertise ... of course everything and everybody has an agenda ... that's why you take in ALL the data, cross correlate it, sift it, and sort it ... so that as much objective truth as possible falls out...when you remove all confidence and respect for institutions, there is no central reference point to wrap societal cohesion around and civilization will fall into chaos and fail ... dunning & krueger plus Tom Nichols is in effect ... they didn't make the world stupid by accident, ... they made the world overconfident on purpose
In the nineties and the noughties, we still believed that the
internet would bring more communication, more participation
for everyone, and more democracy.
Now, however, we must acknowledge that this is not the case
— and that the negative effects of the internet likely outweigh
the positive ones: fake news, conspiracy theories, and
authoritarian views spread far more dramatically than facts
and rational arguments.
And this is where AI proves most welcome, for it serves to
further amplify this dominance — and all its effects.
However, such ranting and indignation are actually quite
pointless. For what do we hope to achieve by it?
No, one would actually have to make suggestions as to how
everything could be saved. How, in other words, we could
escape hell. Where are the suggestions?
Do listeners devalue AI-generated pop music?
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- KVRist
- 327 posts since 18 May, 2020
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- KVRist
- 327 posts since 18 May, 2020
On the subject of young'uns being ok with ai, saw two college commencement speeches so far where the crowd vigorously boo'ed speakers who were evangelizing ai.
Not going to share them because I want to see if they come across your timelines on their own.
Not going to share them because I want to see if they come across your timelines on their own.
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- KVRAF
- 16779 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Carlos Santana with Aretha Franklin - 1971 live at Fillmore West
Lost tapes? My ass. That ain't close, no fooling anybody.

Lost tapes? My ass. That ain't close, no fooling anybody.
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. 
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
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- KVRist
- 100 posts since 3 Oct, 2006 from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Yeah, Fil from the Wings of Pegasus YouTube channel did a video regarding that channel last weekend:BertKoor wrote: Tue May 19, 2026 6:33 am Carlos Santana with Aretha Franklin - 1971 live at Fillmore West
Lost tapes? My ass. That ain't close, no fooling anybody.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1028 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
that amalgamation of voices trained on for that model is quite pleasing and will fool most probably...but it failed miserably at channeling aretha...i guess that is the hope with using data as a forcing function to a normalized distribution and selecting for the mean,...that what is unique will stand out even moreBertKoor wrote: Tue May 19, 2026 6:33 am Carlos Santana with Aretha Franklin - 1971 live at Fillmore West
Lost tapes? My ass. That ain't close, no fooling anybody.
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Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
- KVRian
- 1146 posts since 20 Oct, 2023
The accuracy of A I. output depends on the skill level of the one prompting. I watched the Carano vs. Rousey fight this past Saturday which lasted 17 seconds. Went on YouTube to see comments and someone had posted up a vid of the "full fight". I was shocked at how well this individual mocked up his own fight. Had I not seen the actual fight I would've thought this A.I. created mock up was how it went down.
The first thing that popped in my head was the Running Man.
The first thing that popped in my head was the Running Man.
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- KVRian
- 623 posts since 8 Dec, 2025
It already fools the majority if people. The majority can't even tell if it's a man or a woman singing. Or if it's a real guitar playing or just a YM2612. They hear a lot less than you would think.
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- KVRAF
- 16724 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
I'm pretty sure that this is not AI, I mean, if you want a biscuit song.
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- KVRAF
- 2407 posts since 10 Jan, 2018
It doesn't remotely sound like Aretha and the production has a weird sound not like anything I've heard before.BertKoor wrote: Tue May 19, 2026 6:33 am Carlos Santana with Aretha Franklin - 1971 live at Fillmore West
Lost tapes? My ass. That ain't close, no fooling anybody.
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