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Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:26 pm
noremorze wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:19 pm Bit overlap there since I edited my reply, unfortunately. But to respond to your point, people have already posted several examples of the opposite being true. It happens all the time. It says nothing about the future of the DAW.
Agreed on all your points.

But until it happens - it hasn't.

VP
I should stop editing, cause I did it again. I should just stop posting on my phone, cause each time I hit submit, I forget things that I wanted to say.

You're right, it hasn't. People should just be cautious given their financial status. I want the software to thrive, unfortunately there are just too many examples where products get axed due to situations where Fender is in right now.

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Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:31 pm What exactly were you expecting?
an answer to the actual question.
That these three dinky apps formed a trifecta for world wide domination and should still be going today?
why the strawman?
whyterabbyt wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:12 pm My assertion stands. Battery is tired and done. Because something (many somethings actually) came along and ate it's lunch. Pretty clear to me.

sorry that you cannot accept that.
accept what? that a company invested in a product for more than five years, but decided to abandon it, despite your assertion that that could never happen?
hmmm.
nope.
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noremorze wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:34 pmYou're right, it hasn't. People should just be cautious given their financial status. I want the software to thrive, unfortunately there are just too many examples where products get axed due to situations where Fender is in right now.
Hey I get it. I see that Fender IP fight bubbling up and it's not a good look.

But I am not letting the "guitar" division over there - taint my excitement for my Studio Pro usage.

Ironically - I am also heavily invested in some awesome Fender guitars too - but I can't be bothered to care (or worry) about what Fender wants to do (right or wrong) to protect their IP. I have no dog in that fight.

Just want SP v8.1 to drop and carry on. Is all.

VP

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whyterabbyt wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:37 pman answer to the actual question.
Unfortunately - you do not get a say in how I answer. If you do not like the answer - that is on you.
whyterabbyt wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:12 pmAccept what? that a company invested in a product for more than five years, but decided to abandon it, despite your assertion that that could never happen?
Do not recall saying it could never happen.

And - Battery BTW - is as available as ever.

VP

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noremorze wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:34 pm unfortunately there are just too many examples where products get axed due to situations where Fender is in right now.
nononono, FSP clearly has an immutable magical immunity to any of the possible reasons that products get deprecated. those reasons only apply to other products.
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Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:43 pm
whyterabbyt wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:37 pman answer to the actual question.
Unfortunately - you do not get a say in how I answer. If you do not like the answer - that is on you.
And when I point out your weaselly evasion, that is on you. :shrug:
whyterabbyt wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:12 pm Do not recall saying it could never happen.
So, some company might invest 5 years into in a product even if the product did not have a healthy future.
Thanks for confirming my point.
And - Battery BTW - is as available as ever.
Is 'available' the same thing as 'a healthy future' to you, then?
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whyterabbyt wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:48 pmIs 'available' the same thing as 'a healthy future' to you, then?
Define "healthy future".

Battery has been around since practically Day 1 of NIs existence. And it is still here.

Sounds bloody healthy to me.

VP

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Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:58 pm
whyterabbyt wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:48 pmIs 'available' the same thing as 'a healthy future' to you, then?
Define "healthy future".
Well, it is your term, and you're using availability in your responses to critique of the logic of your assertion regarding 'healthy futures', so maybe you could go first as per
Vocalpoint Studios wrote: No company would invest 5 years into in any product if the product did not have a healthy future.
Obviously, if 'available' isnt the same thing as 'a healthy future' to you, then Im curious why you're leaning on availability in your responses. And if it is, then Im curious as to why you want a definition for your own term when you've used 'available' as a synonym for it.
Perhaps you defining your own term will help with that.
Battery has been around since practically Day 1 of NIs existence. And it is still here.

Sounds bloody healthy to me.
So, still being available, despite, erm, what was it, oh yeah, being tired and done and having its lunch eaten, is 'bloody healthy'.


I guess the answer to my question then is yes, to you availability and a healthy future -are- one and the same thing.

Now Im curious as to the conflation you're making between 'tired and done' and 'bloody healthy.'
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whyterabbyt wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 3:11 pmWell, it is your term, and you're using availability in your responses to critique of the logic of your assertion regarding 'healthy futures', so maybe you could go first as per
Nope - not my term It belongs to this guy:

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But sure - for me personally - super long term "availability" of a product - like say Battery (@ 25+years) now) represents "healthy".

Conversely - as soon as product is deprecated - it is dead (and instantly becomes non-healthy)

And because Battery remains available to use (and purchase) and is NOT retired - all it can logically have - as of now - is a "future".

Put the two together and hope that works for ya.
whyterabbyt wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 3:11 pmNow Im curious as to the conflation you're making between 'tired and done' and 'bloody healthy.'
Don't be curious....

"tired and done" is my opinion on it's overall competitiveness in the market place. Nothing more

"bloody healthy" is my opinion on it's survival (and availability) and nothing more.

That this thing is still here after 25+ years - remain amazing.

But being "healthy" does not need to go hand in hand with being "competitive".

VP
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Yawn. :roll: Don't waste your breath Rabbyt. Check out your pal VP's defense of corporate games in the Presonus, oh excuse me, Fender forums. Sounds like a schill to me. :roll:

https://studiooneforum.com/threads/fend ... gans.2326/
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Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:38 pm
noremorze wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:34 pmYou're right, it hasn't. People should just be cautious given their financial status. I want the software to thrive, unfortunately there are just too many examples where products get axed due to situations where Fender is in right now.
Hey I get it. I see that Fender IP fight bubbling up and it's not a good look.

But I am not letting the "guitar" division over there - taint my excitement for my Studio Pro usage.

Ironically - I am also heavily invested in some awesome Fender guitars too - but I can't be bothered to care (or worry) about what Fender wants to do (right or wrong) to protect their IP. I have no dog in that fight.

Just want SP v8.1 to drop and carry on. Is all.

VP
I'm looking forward to it as well. Was expecting it this week as we've discussed before, but should be soon now.

To go back to your first reply, the og poster made a comment that said that if you love the product, you should buy it even if you don't need it etc. That's what my comment was about that you replied to. It's just absurd to buy things that you do not need, want or agree with the direction a company is taking. I'm a customer, not a sponsor. We as consumers are not responsible for the results of companies making bad decisions. That's all that was about.

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noremorze wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 4:11 pmTo go back to your first reply, the og poster made a comment that said that if you love the product, you should buy it even if you don't need it etc.
My apologies. Mis-read on my part.

VP

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Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 4:13 pm
noremorze wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 4:11 pmTo go back to your first reply, the og poster made a comment that said that if you love the product, you should buy it even if you don't need it etc.
My apologies. Mis-read on my part.

VP
Ah well, I've also learned from it to not call software them :lol: in my head I was talking about the team in Hamburg as well.

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Fender devs:

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:hihi:

Give all your money to the devs, because surely when you're in your deathbed, they will show up to give you support.

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